southsider2k5 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 9 minutes ago, Quin said: The past two years have been pain with fleeting relief The excuses are even being pre-made for the deadline, even though everyone can see it coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 14 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The excuses are even being pre-made for the deadline, even though everyone can see it coming. Don't worry you'll be right here with the I told you so posts. We never doubted you. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 10 minutes ago, Baron said: Don't worry you'll be right here with the I told you so posts. We never doubted you. It is the Soxtalk way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 24 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The excuses are even being pre-made for the deadline, even though everyone can see it coming. Yep, this is obnoxious. Can Getz just not win many trades or is this the preemptive defense for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 If a guy objectively does not have much trade value, then he does not have much trade value. That's not an excuse for getting a small return, that's the reason for getting a small return. There's a difference. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Idk if I really care that much anymore as long as Luis Robert is no longer on the Sox after Thursday. Just have a great, showcase series against the Phillies, take the best offer and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 21 minutes ago, Snopek said: If a guy objectively does not have much trade value, then he does not have much trade value. That's not an excuse for getting a small return, that's the reason for getting a small return. There's a difference. His value now isn't honestly much in question. The real question is why did we pass on all of the other windows when it was higher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 29 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Yep, this is obnoxious. Can Getz just not win many trades or is this the preemptive defense for him? Getz isn't winning any trades with what he has to trade. He already fucked up the trades of his best assests sans one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 14 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: His value now isn't honestly much in question. The real question is why did we pass on all of the other windows when it was higher. Guess we’re just supposed to accept that no one is blame for s%*# return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 1 hour ago, WestEddy said: I have no idea who's available. Neither do you. Most of us learn before our 30's that trade rumors are planted for reasons. Obviously, if Chris Getz is being offered Crochet packages for Robert, he should take the best one and run. If he's being offered garbage, perhaps there are creative ways to get more value. So if they trade for Vientos, will it have been planted? Or real? Just want to catch up to where you were in your 30's. I'm on the record saying multiple back-end prospects with limited reps/younger age would be better than Vientos. A Vientos package is a worst case scenario imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 9 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Guess we’re just supposed to accept that no one is blame for s%*# return Sox couldn't have traded him sooner, couldn't have helped him develop better, and couldn't help him stay healthier. With all their past successes, they've earned the benefit of the doubt from me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 10 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: So if they trade for Vientos, will it have been planted? Or real? Just want to catch up to where you were in your 30's. I'm on the record saying multiple back-end prospects with limited reps/younger age would be better than Vientos. A Vientos package is a worst case scenario imo. Give me Gilbert and 2-3 lotto tickets (some 18 year old A-ballers) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 10 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: So if they trade for Vientos, will it have been planted? Or real? Just want to catch up to where you were in your 30's. I'm on the record saying multiple back-end prospects with limited reps/younger age would be better than Vientos. A Vientos package is a worst case scenario imo. I am not a fan of trading for Vientos and would prefer actual prospects, but come on, there are a lot of worse outcomes possible than getting him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Getz needs to hurry up and trade Robert, people’s brains are melting in real time in this thread. Robert got like 8 hits and people are suddenly being picky about the return of arguably the worst hitter in the sport over the past 2 calendar years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 17 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Guess we’re just supposed to accept that no one is blame for s%*# return It’s the genius of Getz 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 9 minutes ago, fathom said: It’s the genius of Getz Somehow absolved of any blame 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 17 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Sox couldn't have traded him sooner, couldn't have helped him develop better, and couldn't help him stay healthier. With all their past successes, they've earned the benefit of the doubt from me. There it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 The majority of us can agree it was a mistake to not trade him after 2023. Anyone trying to defend that decision today is just being stubborn. You can talk all you want about not getting the value back then, I can respect that stance, but to dig in your heels still today is so ridiculous. This guy that was too valuable to trade is arguably worth nothing today. It was a mistake that absolutely will stunt this rebuild timeline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 15 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: There it is. We’re supposed to applaud them now for trading him for anything they can get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 25 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: So if they trade for Vientos, will it have been planted? Or real? Just want to catch up to where you were in your 30's. I'm on the record saying multiple back-end prospects with limited reps/younger age would be better than Vientos. A Vientos package is a worst case scenario imo. We should probably let your reading skills mature more before we continue this conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Vientos playing tonight, fyi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 (edited) 30 minutes ago, T R U said: The majority of us can agree it was a mistake to not trade him after 2023. Anyone trying to defend that decision today is just being stubborn. You can talk all you want about not getting the value back then, I can respect that stance, but to dig in your heels still today is so ridiculous. This guy that was too valuable to trade is arguably worth nothing today. It was a mistake that absolutely will stunt this rebuild timeline. https://www.mlb.com/news/luis-robert-jr-trade-fits-2024 If someone is arguing he was “too valuable to trade” in the offseason of 23/24, then what about last summer? He was still deemed a “high-quality outfielder” because most were still writing off his first half performance to injuries and a typical slow start. Heck, his $20M team options were still considered “reasonable” back then. Edited July 28 by JUSTgottaBELIEVE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 9 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: https://www.mlb.com/news/luis-robert-jr-trade-fits-2024 If someone is arguing he was “too valuable trade” in the offseason of 23/24, then what about last summer? He was still deemed a “high-quality outfielder” because most were still writing off his first half performance to injuries and a typical slow start. Heck, his $20Mteam options were still considered “reasonable” back then. Shhhhh you’re just supposed to accept the reality of the situation and move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 10 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: https://www.mlb.com/news/luis-robert-jr-trade-fits-2024 If someone is arguing he was “too valuable to trade” in the offseason of 23/24, then what about last summer? He was still deemed a “high-quality outfielder” because most were still writing off his first half performance to injuries and a typical slow start. Heck, his $20M team options were still considered “reasonable” back then. Sox didn’t want to include money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 10 minutes ago, fathom said: Sox didn’t want to include money Instead, they paid him ~$14M over the past year to watch his trade value erode. Brilliant. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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