WhiteSox2023 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 (edited) 29 minutes ago, bmags said: I like Vientos. One good fluky season surrounded by bad with only 4 years left of control. The control is probably even the bigger issue with him, rather than acquiring a player with 6 full years of control for this team. Edited July 31 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 10 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: One good fluky season surrounded by bad with only 4 years left of control. The control is probably even the bigger issue with him, rather than a guy with 5 or 6 years of control. Power is hard to get. We have very little home run power in our org. Not that concerned about re-signing a RH bat only guy in 4 years. For trading Robert, who apparently we would decline an option on, being able to acquire plausible power for the corners where we are shockingly decrepit at providing, I think it's a good bet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 25 minutes ago, bighurt574 said: I think it would have to be JR willing to pay $20M on an otherwise cheap payroll to have the closest they'll get to a "star" name in the lineup to sell some extra tickets. With the reports that he has a decent market now, it's certainly a gamble that they'd increase his trade value enough by holding him a year and spending $20M in the process. Even if Robert goes on a tear in the last third, he still carries the label of injury-plagued and is known to slump off for seasons. And right now, the Sox can cover most of his remaining $5M salary and $2M buyout. He's at peak value. The leverage the Sox have is that maybe this team, as constructed, looks like a 75-win outfit, and with a couple of upgrades, climbs over .500 next season, and vies for a wild card. Then hanging onto Robert starts to make sense. if LuisAngel Acuña or Mick Abel have been floated, I don't think you get much better than that in the off-season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 I hate AI, but boy, can Grok give a quick summation that searching "Robert + trade" doesn't produce: What teams are still in on Luis Robert this morning? As of this morning, July 31, 2025, the teams reportedly still showing interest in trading for Chicago White Sox center fielder Luis Robert Jr. ahead of the 6 p.m. ET MLB trade deadline include: New York Mets: Sources indicate the Mets have been one of the most aggressive pursuers, with some even calling them the "frontrunner." They are seeking to upgrade their center field position, currently platooning Tyrone Taylor and Jeff McNeil. Discussions have included prospects like Luisangel Acuña. Philadelphia Phillies: The Phillies have been consistently linked to Robert, with interest noted multiple times in recent reports. They are looking to bolster their outfield, potentially moving Brandon Marsh to left field if Robert is acquired. San Diego Padres: The Padres are among the teams still in the mix, seeking outfield help. Their interest has been noted alongside other contenders, though they may also be exploring other outfielders like Steven Kwan. While earlier reports mentioned up to eight teams checking in on Robert, including the Dodgers, Royals, Mariners, and others, the most recent updates focus on the Mets, Phillies, and Padres as the primary contenders. The White Sox are reportedly seeking a high return in prospects, and Robert’s recent hot streak (.318/.412/.545 in July) has boosted his trade value, though his $15 million salary for 2025 and $20 million club options for 2026-27 remain considerations. Note that trade rumors are fluid, and some sources suggest the White Sox might hold onto Robert until the offseason if offers don’t meet their expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 15 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Even if Robert goes on a tear in the last third, he still carries the label of injury-plagued and is known to slump off for seasons. And right now, the Sox can cover most of his remaining $5M salary and $2M buyout. He's at peak value. The leverage the Sox have is that maybe this team, as constructed, looks like a 75-win outfit, and with a couple of upgrades, climbs over .500 next season, and vies for a wild card. Then hanging onto Robert starts to make sense. if LuisAngel Acuña or Mick Abel have been floated, I don't think you get much better than that in the off-season. Even if they plan on being somewhat competitive, finding 1 WAR outfielders to replace Robert via free agency isn’t that hard to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 16 minutes ago, Baron said: Padres system after the top 2 is terrible. Maybe they can put together a volume package with Hightower and others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 I’d rather hold on to Robert than to trade with Padres. Sox has not done well in any trades with Padres, and they have no available positional prospects that excites me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 12 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Padres system after the top 2 is terrible. Maybe they can put together a volume package with Hightower and others. If we're looking for power, maybe they can send us that Sheets kid 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 13 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Padres system after the top 2 is terrible. Maybe they can put together a volume package with Hightower and others. Or trade Cease and send some of that return our way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 10 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Or trade Cease and send some of that return our way. Possibly. I don’t think Cease will return much either at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 I'll take Kash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 15 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: I’d rather hold on to Robert than to trade with Padres. Sox has not done well in any trades with Padres, and they have no available positional prospects that excites me. This is such a stupid way to operate. We've lost trades to everyone.. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 17 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I'll take Kash Jerry's new favorite player. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 11 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Even if they plan on being somewhat competitive, finding 1 WAR outfielders to replace Robert via free agency isn’t that hard to do. Good god can you please stop with this nonsense? Like your hate for the player borderlines on creepy. The dude is at 0.8 fWAR 2/3 through the season with an xwOBA 40 points higher than his wOBA. Robert’s xwOBA of .326 is equal to Julio Rodriguez’s wOBA who is at 3.2 fWAR on the season. I’d wager large amounts of money that Robert ends up over 2 fWAR this season despite the slow start and that he ends up over 3 fWAR next year if healthy. Honestly, if you think that level of production is easily replaceable, then maybe go check the free agent list and then filter on CF. I’m not sure you’re going to love what you find there. Also, it’s strange how we don’t see constant posts from you on your boy Anthony Santander. How is he doing this year? Just weird that half your posts on this site are you tooting your own horn about Robert being bad, but there is no mention of wanting to give one of the worst players in baseball this year $90M. Funny you think finding 1 win OFers is easy when the you wanted yo hand a near nine figure contract to a guy who can’t even achieve that threshold. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 11 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Jerry's new favorite player. That has the makings of a very funny conversation. "YOU TOLD ME WE WERE TRADING ROBERT FOR CASH!" "I mean, we did. We got Kash back." "NO, CASH!" "Right...Kash." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 2 hours ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: But you’ve been saying Robert is for sure gone. What changed? I still think he moves. I have no faith that they’ll actually pick up his option. I was just saying that if they bring him back and I’m wrong, the team is kind of set right now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 45 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Even if they plan on being somewhat competitive, finding 1 WAR outfielders to replace Robert via free agency isn’t that hard to do. Finding one that can put up a 4+ WAR season is quite difficult though. Look, they should trade ROBERT if they can get something decent for him. But dumping him for a back end top 20 prospect just doesn't really do much for me. I personally would rather run it back next season than take a poor return. The payroll can certainly sustain it, and the Sox could be interesting-ish next season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 11 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I still think he moves. I have no faith that they’ll actually pick up his option. I was just saying that if they bring him back and I’m wrong, the team is kind of set right now I kind of hope they just cut Benintendi either way. We got to be getting closer to that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I kind of hope they just cut Benintendi either way. We got to be getting closer to that point. Maybe in the final year. I can’t see Jerry approving eating this much money… 2026: $16.5M 2027: $14.5M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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caulfield12 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 25 minutes ago, Tony said: That has the makings of a very funny conversation. "YOU TOLD ME WE WERE TRADING ROBERT FOR CASH!" "I mean, we did. We got Kash back." "NO, CASH!" "Right...Kash." Andrew Kashner is still pitching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Baron Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 As you can see I'm really engaged at work 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 14 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Maybe in the final year. I can’t see Jerry approving eating this much money… 2026: $16.5M 2027: $14.5M Likely don't even have that much cash on hand to pay it out this budget year without going into more debt. Not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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