T R U Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 6 minutes ago, Baron said: Has that guy ever been right in the first place? I'm going with that option first. I have no idea, but it would indicate there may have been something there if they said the Blue Jays were discussing Houser and then they actually do end up trading for a starting pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 9 minutes ago, T R U said: I have no idea, but it would indicate there may have been something there if they said the Blue Jays were discussing Houser and then they actually do end up trading for a starting pitcher. If it was someone other than the food accounts I would agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurtCG Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Seems like there is never a good time to trade Robert. I think he stays ala Moncada and the option is quitely declined on a Friday afternoon in a couple months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Get back to me when the butthole accounts start posting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 They're probably going to have to package Robert with Houser/Civale to get anything worthwhile. They just screwed up by not trading him last year. The only reason why there isn't more outrage is because Jed is back to being Jed - got his extension and is playing things safe again. Just the way Ricketts loves it. For them not to end up with two legit starters and closers, is a huge failure IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 10 minutes ago, T R U said: I have no idea, but it would indicate there may have been something there if they said the Blue Jays were discussing Houser and then they actually do end up trading for a starting pitcher. Everyone knew Jays were after pitching though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 12 minutes ago, Rey21 said: Saw someone on X bring up the Sox picking up Kimbrel's option to just trade him not long after that, if the Sox are willing to eat some money too, that could be very enticing to a lot of teams if he stays healthy and has a strong 2nd half. That seems to be the plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 8 minutes ago, LittleHurtCG said: Seems like there is never a good time to trade Robert. I think he stays ala Moncada and the option is quitely declined on a Friday afternoon in a couple months. Just totally braindead if that's what happens. You trade him for ANYTHING if this is the plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 12 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Do you boo the coaches for being optimistic ? Are we all supposed to be the same personalities of doom and gloom ? Should we all apologize for liking the rookies playing well ? Did you throw ups reading how thrilled people were yesterday in the game thread against the Phillies ? Is kind of sad all the doom and gloomers find it so hard to compliment positive things but find it so easy to rip things apart. Heck the Pope would lambasted here for being too Holy. Since 2023, the White Sox are 142-291. In that same stretch, the Rockies are 148-284. Piss off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 47 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I really love this in theory, but it's hard to get on board when considering that the White Sox have destroyed Luis Robert and expecting them to fix him feels like a pipe dream. That said, I won't be mad if I get to continue watching Luis because while many have soured on him here, he's still the most exciting player on this team by a mile. I'd be okay with this as long as the Sox realized that Luis Robert is not Shohei Ohtani or Juan Soto - guys who can change the lineup all by themselves. Robert needs protection. If you're going to actually invest in the lineup, I'm happy to keep Robert here. He's still great defensively and he would be cheap relatively speaking. With that stated, beyond getting him legit hitters in the lineup, get a whole new medical staff. I mean, tear the whole staff down to the studs. I want no holdovers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 @fathom, do u have any info as to what NYM has actually offered us? The Tong ask is obviously not realistic at all but I'd be interested to know what kinds of things have been offered? Are the Sox even interested in Clifford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 6 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: That seems to be the plan. Yes, the plan where they traded for Kimbrel and he was dreadful so they picked up the option expecting to flip him for something to recoup their value and ended up just swapping him out for another high priced bad player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 10 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: @fathom, do u have any info as to what NYM has actually offered us? The Tong ask is obviously not realistic at all but I'd be interested to know what kinds of things have been offered? Are the Sox even interested in Clifford? No idea but Acuna seemed to be likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 13 minutes ago, nitetrain8601 said: I'd be okay with this as long as the Sox realized that Luis Robert is not Shohei Ohtani or Juan Soto - guys who can change the lineup all by themselves. Robert needs protection. If you're going to actually invest in the lineup, I'm happy to keep Robert here. He's still great defensively and he would be cheap relatively speaking. With that stated, beyond getting him legit hitters in the lineup, get a whole new medical staff. I mean, tear the whole staff down to the studs. I want no holdovers. I've been saying this for years given the Sox injury history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 9 minutes ago, nitetrain8601 said: I'd be okay with this as long as the Sox realized that Luis Robert is not Shohei Ohtani or Juan Soto - guys who can change the lineup all by themselves. Robert needs protection. If you're going to actually invest in the lineup, I'm happy to keep Robert here. He's still great defensively and he would be cheap relatively speaking. With that stated, beyond getting him legit hitters in the lineup, get a whole new medical staff. I mean, tear the whole staff down to the studs. I want no holdovers. It's interesting you use the word "holdovers" because I've used the same word in thinking about Robert. I agree with the overall idea trading him JUST to trade him doesn't really do much for anyone, I can live with holding onto him if teams are offering their 16th best prospect. However, I do think there is something to the idea of Robert being the last "representative" from the core of the last regime, and getting him out of the organization sort of "turns the page" on that chapter. Can't be measured, and kind of a meatball take honestly, but I do think there is something to that. And I'm not accusing Robert of being a bad clubhouse guy or a bad influence, but with the positive play coming from Colson, Teel, Quero, etc....just feels like it's time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Who’s excited for the deadline to pass, and we have people saying trades can still be announced, only for someone like Russell Dorsey to tweet that the Sox are done. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 If the Sox traded Robert, do you really think JR is going to spend the $20 millions Aveda next year on other players? He's been tighter than my poop chute in recent years so I have no confidence in that happening. Therefore, as a fan, if the offers aren't good, I'm fine for holding on to him and hope he rebuilds his value. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 17 minutes ago, Tony said: Since 2023, the White Sox are 142-291. In that same stretch, the Rockies are 148-284. Piss off. If the rest of the infrastructure fails, we can always post by gaslight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 11 minutes ago, fathom said: No idea but Acuna seemed to be likely We just need to find some damn way to pair Clifford with him. Eat money, throw in a reliever or throw in Houser. Find some way, Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 12 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Do you boo the coaches for being optimistic ? Are we all supposed to be the same personalities of doom and gloom ? Should we all apologize for liking the rookies playing well ? Did you throw ups reading how thrilled people were yesterday in the game thread against the Phillies ? Is kind of sad all the doom and gloomers find it so hard to compliment positive things but find it so easy to rip things apart. Heck the Pope would lambasted here for being too Holy. Did I throw up reading posts? Uh, no. You all can feel however you want to feel. I wish I could just enjoy the game the same way I did when I was a kid, but I can't. I have different standards as an adult. The older I get, the more valuable my time becomes and the more expensive sports have become. I don't like investing time and energy into things that aren't investing into themselves. I watch for the players, and of course I'm happy to see Colson raking and Teel doing well! I root for every player that comes up because I am a pro-player fan. Problem is, the White Sox position player leader in WAR is Mike Tauchman, and then Sosa who most discredit and ridicule constantly (even the ones that are optimist). But calling people doom and gloom for citing facts is just obnoxious imo. When you're the second worst team in baseball coming off the worst season in MLB history, it shouldn't be surprising to anyone that there's more negative than positive stuff to talk about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 21 minutes ago, LittleHurtCG said: Seems like there is never a good time to trade Robert. I think he stays ala Moncada and the option is quitely declined on a Friday afternoon in a couple months. It's like Goldilocks of the trade block. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 wouldn't he have been more valuable if they picked up the option now, before the deadline? and maybe eat some or all of it to get a better return? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 11 minutes ago, Tony said: It's interesting you use the word "holdovers" because I've used the same word in thinking about Robert. I agree with the overall idea trading him JUST to trade him doesn't really do much for anyone, I can live with holding onto him if teams are offering their 16th best prospect. However, I do think there is something to the idea of Robert being the last "representative" from the core of the last regime, and getting him out of the organization sort of "turns the page" on that chapter. Can't be measured, and kind of a meatball take honestly, but I do think there is something to that. And I'm not accusing Robert of being a bad clubhouse guy or a bad influence, but with the positive play coming from Colson, Teel, Quero, etc....just feels like it's time. I think Robert is a good enough player to keep around. He's also been a good soldier, especially factoring in that he was expecting to compete for years and the team has been bad. I think Robert is the type that would be very good on a strong team - hence, if you're not going to commit to improving the team around him, don't bother not trading him. I think he would fit well with the Padres and Dodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Just got a wonderful ESPN notification that the Sox appear unlikely to trade Robert now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 11 minutes ago, T R U said: Just got a wonderful ESPN notification that the Sox appear unlikely to trade Robert now. Yep, MLB Network reported about an hour and a half ago. Padres are an option, but they're moreso looking for a power bat (they have the 2nd least HRs in the majors behind the Pirates). The Phillies were a legit option, and with the Phillies completing their trade, the Mets offer went lower. Padres don't have the prospect match the Sox want. So unless they get creative (Suarez gets moved to the Sox who flip him), Robert is staying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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