7 minutes ago, The Beast said:

Why was the actual swing change?

Do you mean when? It was April 23. 

That was a fun ten minutes 

7 minutes ago, fathom said:

That was a fun ten minutes 

On gameday, that Meidroth RBI looked like a pitch over his head

15 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

Anybody have Vargas’ stats since the swing change?

.328/.414/.541 with 7 XBH (3 HR) and more walks (9) than Ks (7)

10 minutes ago, wegner said:

Huge

Are they now over .500 under Leo The Great?

6  and 6 in May so probably.

7 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

.328/.414/.541 with 7 XBH (3 HR) and more walks (9) than Ks (7)

That'll do

If Vargas is a thing...and all the other young ones keep producing...this team is actually watchable and dare i say fun??

9 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

Do you mean when? It was April 23. 

Before the game today: .321/.415/.482 in 65 PA

9 minutes ago, wegner said:

On gameday, that Meidroth RBI looked like a pitch over his head

He ain't that tall...so it kind of was

8 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said:

If Vargas is a thing...and all the other young ones keep producing...this team is actually watchable and dare i say fun??

A road win in extras is huge for them. But the talent level still isn't great . But it is fun when the youngin's come through.

The trend of save-less wins continues on, 13 wins and still just 2 saves.

The 7 win Rockies have 5 saves. 21 teams have 10+ already.

7 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

The trend of save-less wins continues on, 13 wins and still just 2 saves.

The 7 win Rockies have 5 saves. 21 teams have 10+ already.

What is the least number of saves in a season....are we in for another record?

11 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

A road win in extras is huge for them. But the talent level still isn't great . But it is fun when the youngin's come through.

Great game for Cannon

18 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

Do you mean when? It was April 23. 

Sorry, I meant what the swing change was. Maybe he shortened it up or dropped his hands.

7 minutes ago, wegner said:

What is the least number of saves in a season....are we in for another record?

Probably thr 2024 Sox who set that record, if I had to guess.

I would also guess that the record would have to be normalized for era.

7 minutes ago, The Beast said:

Sorry, I meant what the swing change was. Maybe he shortened it up or dropped his hands.

I believe someone said raised his hands as he couldn't get to the high fastball.

10 minutes ago, wegner said:

What is the least number of saves in a season....are we in for another record?

Sox had 21 saves last season and are well behind that pace despite being on track for more wins. That's the fewest since at least 2000 (not counting 2020).

10 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

The trend of save-less wins continues on, 13 wins and still just 2 saves.

The 7 win Rockies have 5 saves. 21 teams have 10+ already.

What are the rules on saves? I swear when I was growing up, it counted as a save if you came into the game in the last inning with the tying run in the hole. So a three run lead would obviously count, or something like bases loaded with a six run lead. Am I making that up?

9 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

What are the rules on saves? I swear when I was growing up, it counted as a save if you came into the game in the last inning with the tying run in the hole. So a three run lead would obviously count, or something like bases loaded with a six run lead. Am I making that up?

It's if the tying run is on deck. So if you have a 4 run lead with 2 runners on and you come in and finish the game, it's a save.

49 minutes ago, fathom said:

No it won’t, it will be over fast.  The Sox are so unbelievably bad with the Manfred Runner

Not so fast 😋

Where’s the captain of the Vargas fan club?🤣

12 minutes ago, chw42 said:

It's if the tying run is on deck. So if you have a 4 run lead with 2 runners on and you come in and finish the game, it's a save.

So a three run lead going into the bottom of the ninth is not a save?

EDIT:  I just looked it up. I get it now. Either a three run lead OR the tying run on deck. 

Edited May 14, 2025May 14 by SoxBlanco

7 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

So a three run lead going into the bottom of the ninth is not a save?

A 3 run lead is a save. The situation I brought up is for scenarios where it's more than 3 runs.

I have been as down on Vargas as anyone. If this change allows him to tap into some power and he plays good D, huge win for the org. Fuller earned his salary on one guy.

14 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

So a three run lead going into the bottom of the ninth is not a save?

EDIT:  I just looked it up. I get it now. Either a three run lead OR the tying run on deck. 

The Sox were up by 4.