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Is “The 78” Dead? Part XIII, Ishbia buys an Amtrak depot

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27 minutes ago, Lukakke Appling said:

Haha not a good catch at all. I’ve never heard of the Buffalo Braves. I was saying NY state has 8 teams, and I assumed it was the Sabres you had forgotten. Or it’s possible one of the 8 doesn’t play in NY anymore. I’ve got: Mets, Yankees, Bills, Knicks, Nets, Rangers, Islanders, Sabres. 

Ha!  I did totally forget about the Buffalo Sabres!  You're right - there are 8 MLB/NFL/NBA/NHL teams that currently play in the state of New York.   So, NY state has lost 6 teams over the years (w/ 2 of those still playing in the NYC metro), but still have 8 teams playing within the state boundaries.  

....and I'm only counting those 4 sports leagues, of course - not MLS, WNBA, etc.  

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3 hours ago, Lukakke Appling said:

Haha not a good catch at all. I’ve never heard of the Buffalo Braves. I was saying NY state has 8 teams, and I assumed it was the Sabres you had forgotten. Or it’s possible one of the 8 doesn’t play in NY anymore. I’ve got: Mets, Yankees, Bills, Knicks, Nets, Rangers, Islanders, Sabres. 

I was going to add the jets but then remembered they play in jersey

23 hours ago, 77 Hitmen said:

I assume you mean the Buffalo Braves, not the Sabres, but good catch!  I had to look them up.....they're the LA Clippers now.

The Braves of the NBA moved to San Diego first and then Los Angeles.

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23 hours ago, Lukakke Appling said:

If you forgot the Sabres nobody could blame you. 

 

23 hours ago, Lukakke Appling said:

If you forgot the Sabres nobody could blame you. 

 

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23 hours ago, Lukakke Appling said:

Haha not a good catch at all. I’ve never heard of the Buffalo Braves. I was saying NY state has 8 teams, and I assumed it was the Sabres you had forgotten. Or it’s possible one of the 8 doesn’t play in NY anymore. I’ve got: Mets, Yankees, Bills, Knicks, Nets, Rangers, Islanders, Sabres. 

You forgot the Syracuse Nationals who moved to Philadelphia and became the 76ers, this was after the Warriors left Philly and moved to San Francisco.

39 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said:

You forgot the Syracuse Nationals who moved to Philadelphia and became the 76ers, this was after the Warriors left Philly and moved to San Francisco.

Rochester Royals moved to Cincy-KC-Omaha- Sacramento Kings. 

39 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said:

You forgot the Syracuse Nationals who moved to Philadelphia and became the 76ers, this was after the Warriors left Philly and moved to San Francisco.

Interesting that both Syracuse and Rochester, NY had NBA teams way back in the day.

17 minutes ago, pcq said:

Rochester Royals moved to Cincy-KC-Omaha- Sacramento Kings. 

Yes they did.

Here's an interesting look at just how much of a sweetheart deal the new stadium deal is for the Chiefs and how bad it sounds for Kansas taxpayers:

 

1 hour ago, 77 Hitmen said:

Here's an interesting look at just how much of a sweetheart deal the new stadium deal is for the Chiefs and how bad it sounds for Kansas taxpayers:

 

It looks bad for Kansas taxpayers but still,  the Kansas politicians  feel overall it will benefit the State of Kansas, I find it difficult to believe that Kansas is going to lose money on the deal.

49 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

It looks bad for Kansas taxpayers but still,  the Kansas politicians  feel overall it will benefit the State of Kansas, I find it difficult to believe that Kansas is going to lose money on the deal.

Guessing a lot of casual football fans wouldn’t even think of KC as being outside of Kansas.

1 hour ago, WBWSF said:

It looks bad for Kansas taxpayers but still,  the Kansas politicians  feel overall it will benefit the State of Kansas, I find it difficult to believe that Kansas is going to lose money on the deal.

Suddenly your letters to JR make sense.

On 12/25/2025 at 7:19 AM, WBWSF said:

From what I've seen most people in KC and Missouri aren't too happy about the Chiefs moving out of state. Even the Missouri politicians  aren't happy about it.  The more I've thought about it the more  I find it amazing that Illinois hasn't approved the Bears  Arlington Heights site. It would be a great thing for the  area. If something doesn't change and Indiana offers the Bears a tremendous deal the  Bears are going to move out of state, The states of Kansas and Indiana view a NFL franchise as an asset. Even tho the  money is putting more money into the NFL billionaire  owners pockets Kansas and Indiana think its worth it in the long run.

 

Fans and politicians will be pissed if they leave, but it’s the very same folks saying don’t give them a dime though the Bears are asking for money for infrastructure around the stadium. 
 

Bears leaving kind of has to happen tbh.

On 12/28/2025 at 1:35 PM, WBWSF said:

It looks bad for Kansas taxpayers but still,  the Kansas politicians  feel overall it will benefit the State of Kansas, I find it difficult to believe that Kansas is going to lose money on the deal.

Lmao.  Most stadiums are boondoggles

On 12/28/2025 at 1:35 PM, WBWSF said:

It looks bad for Kansas taxpayers but still,  the Kansas politicians  feel overall it will benefit the State of Kansas, I find it difficult to believe that Kansas is going to lose money on the deal.

Jerry Reinsdorf likes the cut of your jib.

So is the "Fire to the 78" thing all but a done deal? 

22 hours ago, ron883 said:

So is the "Fire to the 78" thing all but a done deal? 

We'll see when they actually break ground on the facility, which is supposed to be this coming spring.  

On 12/28/2025 at 11:35 AM, WBWSF said:

It looks bad for Kansas taxpayers but still,  the Kansas politicians  feel overall it will benefit the State of Kansas, I find it difficult to believe that Kansas is going to lose money on the deal.

The market is the market at the end of the day. They got a better deal and they took it which is a rational decision, so as much as i despise the Chiefs, it was the proper move. The public or their elected representatives have to make that cost/benefit analysis. The taxpayers rarely come out ahead but there's only 32 of these teams out there and these communities have to decide how much or how little they value having one.

Thankfully, the owners of my NFL team are rich enough with all that Walmart money that they are just writing a 2-4 billion dollar check for the new stadium on a private basis and not asking the public to pitch in. 

On 12/28/2025 at 1:35 PM, WBWSF said:

It looks bad for Kansas taxpayers but still,  the Kansas politicians  feel overall it will benefit the State of Kansas, I find it difficult to believe that Kansas is going to lose money on the deal.

Looking at the history of public funding for stadiums, I find it hard to believe Kansas isn’t going to lose money on the deal, and a ton of it. But they get the Chiefs.

On 12/31/2025 at 2:50 PM, SoCalChiSox said:

The market is the market at the end of the day. They got a better deal and they took it which is a rational decision, so as much as i despise the Chiefs, it was the proper move. The public or their elected representatives have to make that cost/benefit analysis. The taxpayers rarely come out ahead but there's only 32 of these teams out there and these communities have to decide how much or how little they value having one.

Thankfully, the owners of my NFL team are rich enough with all that Walmart money that they are just writing a 2-4 billion dollar check for the new stadium on a private basis and not asking the public to pitch in. 

I read where the Bears are meeting with the Indiana officials next Tuesday. ( January 6) It will  be interesting to see if there is any movement on a new Bears stadium.

11 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

I read where the Bears are meeting with the Indiana officials next Tuesday. ( January 6) It will  be interesting to see if there is any movement on a new Bears stadium.

Good let them talk. "You are looking live" at the Hammond Bears. 😉

The politicians have made it pretty clear until the Bears pay off the renovation debt from 2002 they aren't getting any cooperation. Let them go to Indiana, they'll still be the Chicago Bears.

12 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Good let them talk. "You are looking live" at the Hammond Bears. 😉

The politicians have made it pretty clear until the Bears pay off the renovation debt from 2002 they aren't getting any cooperation. Let them go to Indiana, they'll still be the Chicago Bears.

How about the Illiana Bears.

2 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

How about the Illiana Bears.

If Indiana gives the Bears everything they want, I wonder what will happen if  Indiana says the deal  has to have the team known as the Indiana Bears.

2 hours ago, WBWSF said:

If Indiana gives the Bears everything they want, I wonder what will happen if  Indiana says the deal  has to have the team known as the Indiana Bears.

Who cares?

It's just a name. Don't lose any sleep over this. 

3 hours ago, WBWSF said:

If Indiana gives the Bears everything they want, I wonder what will happen if  Indiana says the deal  has to have the team known as the Indiana Bears.

I doubt they'd make that a condition.   Colts fans in the state would probably not be on board with such a demand.

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