WestEddy Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I guess they're not trading him for a better package than Getz received. The #STLCards are designating Erick Fedde for assignment. — Katie Woo (@katiejwoo) July 23, 2025 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 This is EXACTLY why you sell high on Houser, Civale, Altavilla, Tauchman, and anyone else who gets a bite after a resurgance. I have no idea if there are still teams interested in them all, but SELL SELL SELL MORTIMER! 9 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Have the Sox picked up Fedde yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 9 minutes ago, wegner said: Have the Sox picked up Fedde yet? It would seem stupid not to, no? Granted, even if he's good again for the Sox, no one is going to trade for him again, and it's not like you got a kings ransom the first time around...but would make sense for both the Sox and Fedde. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 8 minutes ago, Tony said: It would seem stupid not to, no? Granted, even if he's good again for the Sox, no one is going to trade for him again, and it's not like you got a kings ransom the first time around...but would make sense for both the Sox and Fedde. The will need to fill innings, but I suppose they could be thinking of the payroll and if they might be getting an arm or two back in these deals to replace the guys going out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 9 minutes ago, wegner said: Have the Sox picked up Fedde yet? He'll probably clear waivers. Curious if the Cardinals outright or just release him. He's been pretty bad in his last 5 starts. Colorado just touched him up for 6 earned runs in 3 innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I think it's pretty clear the Dodgers won the trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 For the record, we are about 2/3 of the way through the season, so on Fedde's $7.5 million salary, a claiming team would be on the hook for about $2.5 mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Bring him home 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 16 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Bring him home Poor guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 They certainly will need someone to eat innings soon here when all of the young guys hit their innings limits 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, WestEddy said: I guess they're not trading him for a better package than Getz received. Is this truly a Getz win?…it was last year, but hard to say right now it will get the Sox closer to the post season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 9 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Is this truly a Getz win?…it was last year, but hard to say right now it will get the Sox closer to the post season. Playofffs!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 14 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Is this truly a Getz win?…it was last year, but hard to say right now it will get the Sox closer to the post season. It's very easy to say that obtaining Vargas, Perez and Albertus have moved the White Sox closer to playoff contention than keeping Fedde, Kopech and Pham. Because there's probably not a sentence that is more slam dunk true than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 18 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Is this truly a Getz win?…it was last year, but hard to say right now it will get the Sox closer to the post season. I think despite the disappointment in the return, both initially, and how they have since preformed, they did sell at his peak value. We can definitely think the return was too low, but he did at least time the deal right. Vargas, outside of a short bender, has been a large disappointment overall. Perez started off insanely hot, and faded hard, sitting at a .726 OPS this season now. April was a .912 OPS, since then .700, .612, and .642, Albertus was acquired hurt, stayed hurt, and has play a bit over a weeks worth of games in the last full year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 2 hours ago, Quin said: I think it's pretty clear the Dodgers won the trade. They’re paying for two semi-pricy vets who have combined produced less war this season than Vargas has. To be fair, Kopech doesn’t play, but we kind of knew that. But I can’t believe they gave 30-year-old, oft-injured Edman, the benentindi special, a $75mil contract. He’s in his “prime” and is a sub-.700 ops hitter. He’s a very expensive utilityman. I’d rather have Vargas and Houser or Shane Smith or, like, 1000 other pitchers, before Kopech and Edman I think. The Dodgers make a ton of dumb decisions but bandaid it with an unlimited budget. How are they not far and away the best baseball team this season? If I were a fan of them, I’d be embarrassed. Especially about their pitching staff. Aren’t they about to try out Nastrini? Couldn’t they have just gotten Houser for nothing? I think it sucks that Fedde was DFA’d but our fan base definitely overrated the guy. We could still be watching the Vargas of last year and the logical perspective would probably be “garbage in, garbage out”; luckily Vargas is pretty good and is under contract for many more years. Makes a ton of sense for him to come back here, but we’re not paying his salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Fedde had his best career numbers with the Sox, what the heck, bring him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 9 minutes ago, nrockway said: They’re paying for two semi-pricy vets who have combined produced less war this season than Vargas has. To be fair, Kopech doesn’t play, but we kind of knew that. But I can’t believe they gave 30-year-old, oft-injured Edman, the benentindi special, a $75mil contract. He’s in his “prime” and is a sub-.700 ops hitter. He’s a very expensive utilityman. I’d rather have Vargas and Houser or Shane Smith or, like, 1000 other pitchers, before Kopech and Edman I think. The Dodgers make a ton of dumb decisions but bandaid it with an unlimited budget. How are they not far and away the best baseball team this season? If I were a fan of them, I’d be embarrassed. Especially about their pitching staff. Aren’t they about to try out Nastrini? Couldn’t they have just gotten Houser for nothing? I think it sucks that Fedde was DFA’d but our fan base definitely overrated the guy. We could still be watching the Vargas of last year and the logical perspective would probably be “garbage in, garbage out”; luckily Vargas is pretty good and is under contract for many more years. Makes a ton of sense for him to come back here, but we’re not paying his salary. Until Vargas, Perez or Albertus are contributors to a World Series winning team, the Dodgers won the trade. This is like saying the Sox lost the Carlos Lee trade cause Lee put up monster numbers for the next 4 seasons and Pods had one great year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) 27 minutes ago, nrockway said: They’re paying for two semi-pricy vets who have combined produced less war this season than Vargas has. To be fair, Kopech doesn’t play, but we kind of knew that. But I can’t believe they gave 30-year-old, oft-injured Edman, the benentindi special, a $75mil contract. He’s in his “prime” and is a sub-.700 ops hitter. He’s a very expensive utilityman. I’d rather have Vargas and Houser or Shane Smith or, like, 1000 other pitchers, before Kopech and Edman I think. The Dodgers make a ton of dumb decisions but bandaid it with an unlimited budget. How are they not far and away the best baseball team this season? If I were a fan of them, I’d be embarrassed. Especially about their pitching staff. Aren’t they about to try out Nastrini? Couldn’t they have just gotten Houser for nothing? I think it sucks that Fedde was DFA’d but our fan base definitely overrated the guy. We could still be watching the Vargas of last year and the logical perspective would probably be “garbage in, garbage out”; luckily Vargas is pretty good and is under contract for many more years. Makes a ton of sense for him to come back here, but we’re not paying his salary. They've had a ton of injuries but guys are starting to return. Don't bet against them come October is all I'm saying. And in 10 days they'll go out and trade for issues they feel need to be taken care of. Edited July 23 by Lip Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 55 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Vargas, outside of a short bender, has been a large disappointment overall. He's looked better recently - .235/.357/.529/.887 over the last 14 days (10 games). Hopefully he's figured something out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I wouldn't be surprised if the Sox grabbed him. They're going to need innings eaters, and he pitched well with the Sox last year. If Houser (likely) and Civale (not as likely) are traded, a lot more pressure falls to Smith, Burke, Cannon, and possibly Martin. Smith will likely be innings-limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 9 minutes ago, almagest said: He's looked better recently - .235/.357/.529/.887 over the last 14 days (10 games). Hopefully he's figured something out. I think Vargas would actually learn a lot from Konerko, cause if he's gonna be a guy who does swing changes, why not learn from the dude who always tinkered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Claim him. You signed him to the contract he signed originally and you’re going to need innings after the deadline. f*** it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 43 minutes ago, Quin said: I think Vargas would actually learn a lot from Konerko, cause if he's gonna be a guy who does swing changes, why not learn from the dude who always tinkered? The last was said, Paulie had zero interest in that kind of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) 3 hours ago, Quin said: Until Vargas, Perez or Albertus are contributors to a World Series winning team, the Dodgers won the trade. This is like saying the Sox lost the Carlos Lee trade cause Lee put up monster numbers for the next 4 seasons and Pods had one great year. That's a hot take. World Series are not the end all be all in trades. Look at how long some organizations went between winning a world series . That doesn't mean they lost every trade they were involved if the players involved wins a World Series. If you're bad and trade with contenders that's what happens. It's part of making the trade if you get 6 years of a few prospect for a year of an expiring contract. Have the Mariners ,Rays, Padres , Brewers and Rockies all lost every trade that a player went to World Series winning team ? World Series wins are few and far between for a lot of teams and it's getting harder to close the gap between the haves and have not. Even the Dodger had a pretty large gap (32 years) between World Series wins and the Yankees haven't won since 2009. Edited July 23 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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