Brewers fans: Refer to Vaughn as "King Vaughn"

Some posters: Barely a difference maker

42 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

Lmao Vaughn had a leadership role?  News to me

I think the way the White Sox handled the Vaughn role is the epitome (one of many) of their failing as an organization.  The bat was so special he had to be put in LF and RF.  reality was he had to play LF and RF because the farm system was so bad they had no other options and they are cheap.  

He was the poster boy for a change of scenery. I don't think he will be anything more than a tad above average but I think he is ideal for the Milwaukee situation and will be put in a position to succeed.  Exactly what the White Sox are not.

The handling of the cubs pitching staff this series has been awful.  This goes back to the Padres series. 

1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said:

Off Cubs topic for a minute, the bunt to move Castellanos to 3rd was horrific last night.  Castellanos got a terrible jump and he is slow to boot.  Thompson killed that rally right there 

I was fuming. They were putting together a comeback, and you knew it was over the second they bunted.

38 minutes ago, Milkman delivers said:

I was fuming. They were putting together a comeback, and you knew it was over the second they bunted.

For sure, when Muncy fielded that ball and turned around, Castellanos wasn’t even close to the bag.  Dodgers definitely scouted the play well and pulled off a flawless wheel play but if you are gonna do that s%*#, PUT IN A FAST RUNNER 

8 hours ago, kitekrazy said:

all I want to know is what got into Vaughn?

It is a little known fact that the NL uses aluminum bats...they look and sound like wood but don't let them fool you.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

So Vaughn is leading, hitting,  and playing defense?  Wonder when he learned to do that, because if he did any of them for the Sox, he would still be here.

Getz taught Vaughn everything he didn’t know when he was director of player development.  😶

Hits his first homerun in 7 weeks and the hyperbole flows.

2 hours ago, Bonerko4Konerko said:

Hits his first homerun in 7 weeks and the hyperbole flows.

Vaughn finished the regular season with an .869 OPS for the Brewers and nothing is bigger than a key homer in the playoffs.  He was definitely a big, albeit unexpected addition for the Brewers.

Meanwhile, the last Sox player to hit a HR in the postseason was Gavin Sheets on October 12, 2021.  🤣

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I'd say the Cubs offense being substantially worse in the second half (from a solidly above average to below average offense by most measures) had more to do with the Brewers running away with the division than Vaughn's scorching hot month and then back to mediocrity. If they kept up their winning % from the first half the Cubs would've been right there at 96/97 wins with the Brewers. The Cubs this year reminded me a lot of the '00 White Sox - scorching hot offense for the first half, then they cooled off quite a bit and couldn't score in the postseason against a good team.

13 minutes ago, almagest said:

I'd say the Cubs offense being substantially worse in the second half (from a solidly above average to below average offense by most measures) had more to do with the Brewers running away with the division than Vaughn's scorching hot month and then back to mediocrity. If they kept up their winning % from the first half the Cubs would've been right there at 96/97 wins with the Brewers. The Cubs this year reminded me a lot of the '00 White Sox - scorching hot offense for the first half, then they cooled off quite a bit and couldn't score in the postseason against a good team.

But that isn’t exactly what happened — he had more than one scorching hot month.  Vaughn was Bondsian in July with a 1.157 OPS after the Brewers called him up from the minors on July 7th.  Then he slumped in August with a more Sox-like .695 OPS.  However, he sprang back in September with a .942 OPS.  A .942 OPS is damn good for anyone, much less what we remember Vaughn providing.

But your point about the Cubs offense swooning late has been the norm.  Someone posted this last night…

 

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4 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

But that isn’t exactly what happened — he had more than one scorching hot month.  Vaughn was Bondsian in July with a 1.157 OPS after the Brewers called him up from the minors on July 7th.  Then he slumped in August with a more Sox-like .695 OPS.  However, he sprang back in September with a .942 OPS.

No, it was about a month for being scorching hot. He had the same number of games started and about as many PAs in July+September as he had in August alone.

40 minutes ago, almagest said:

No, it was about a month for being scorching hot. He had the same number of games started and about as many PAs in July+September as he had in August alone.

You should have said “a month’s worth of at bats” then.  He was hot in two separate and non-consecutive months (July and September) and his usual “Sox self” in August.

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52 minutes ago, almagest said:

No, it was about a month for being scorching hot. He had the same number of games started and about as many PAs in July+September as he had in August alone.

Because they were splitting up the time with Bauers and Hoskins down the stretch to position their postseason roster...division was already in hand, Dodgers' slumps took off pressure for holding Top Two spot for playoffs.

15 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

You should have said “a month’s worth of at bats” then.  He was hot in two separate and non-consecutive months (July and September) and his usual “Sox self” in August.

And he still had something like 19 RBIs even when the OPS was down in August...was doing his primary job driving in runs when opportunities presented themselves.

7 hours ago, Kyyle23 said:

Lmao Vaughn had a leadership role?  News to me

Yes the one forced on him by Sox PR and a constant bombardment of puff pieces from Scott Merkin talking about his off the field contributions/community work.

Probably another reason he got so complement.

He was never really challenged for 3-4 years for his 1B/DH position despite mostly pedestrian numbers ( same with Sheets)...due to Getz's largely non productive farm system.

Regardless, I doubt Vaughn is still this same stud going forward into next season.  But the Brewers most definitely won the Civale trade and he has been a key addition to their lineup, at least for this year.

I don’t remember when anyone in Chicago was making “UnVaughnted” or “King Vaughn’s Dongs” t-shirts or whatever they are that Brewers fans are printing up.  🤣

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14 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Regardless, I doubt Vaughn is still this same stud going forward into next season.  But the Brewers most definitely won the Civale trade and he has been a key addition to their lineup, at least for this year.

I don’t remember when anyone in Chicago was making “UnVaughnted” or “King Vaughn’s Dongs” t-shirts or whatever they are that Brewers fans are printing up.  🤣

Probably because too many Brewers' fans are starting a counter-protest with their own set of "King of the 1.3 fWAR" t-shirts demonstrating how the sum of small parts equals a much greater whole for that organization.

53 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Because they were splitting up the time with Bauers and Hoskins down the stretch to position their postseason roster...division was already in hand, Dodgers' slumps took off pressure for holding Top Two spot for playoffs.

They were exploiting matchups to put all their players in the best position to succeed, which you can do when you have a good roster. Vaughn still struggles against righties.

45 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Regardless, I doubt Vaughn is still this same stud going forward into next season.  But the Brewers most definitely won the Civale trade and he has been a key addition to their lineup, at least for this year.

I don’t remember when anyone in Chicago was making “UnVaughnted” or “King Vaughn’s Dongs” t-shirts or whatever they are that Brewers fans are printing up.  🤣

I'm glad the Brewers fans are having fun with this, and it's nice to see Vaughn have some success there. Some players just need a wakeup call or to get in an org that can help them where others can't.

I also doubt they bring him back unless it's as a platoon 1B/DH option.

8 minutes ago, almagest said:

They were exploiting matchups to put all their players in the best position to succeed, which you can do when you have a good roster. Vaughn still struggles against righties.

I mean we could have done that with Vaughn too, but yeah.

23 minutes ago, almagest said:

I'm glad the Brewers fans are having fun with this, and it's nice to see Vaughn have some success there. Some players just need a wakeup call or to get in an org that can help them where others can't.

I also doubt they bring him back unless it's as a platoon 1B/DH option.

I bet they will since Hoskins won't be on the books.

9 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

When you lay the foundation for a small or mid market team that makes the playoffs 7/8 years in flyover territory, you're doing something right.

And the Mets were the best team in the NL down the stretch last year.

That doesn't all get cancelled out by one year's worth of bad FA pitching decisions.

Or more like, the Brewers were already damn good before Stearns became GM and are even better after he left. Stearns couldn't even get the second highest payroll in mlb into the playoffs. No sugarcoating it, that’s a massive failure.

Oh, and the Cubs made Counsell the highest paid manager in mlb. The Brewers upgraded their managerial spot when Counsell departed.

12 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Or more like, the Brewers were already damn good before Stearns became GM and are even better after he left. Stearns couldn't even get the second highest payroll in mlb into the playoffs. No sugarcoating it, that’s a massive failure.

Oh, and the Cubs made Counsell the highest paid manager in mlb. The Brewers upgraded their managerial spot when Counsell departed.

5-years, $40 million to have a manager that takes off his hat and looks defeated in the first two games of the NLDS.  🤣

23 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

I bet they will since Hoskins won't be on the books.

Agreed.  I think they will offer him a 1-year deal through salary arbitration.  The only 1B prospect they have that is close to ready is Luke Adams I believe.

1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:

And he still had something like 19 RBIs even when the OPS was down in August...was doing his primary job driving in runs when opportunities presented themselves.

I'm cherry picking stats here, but he had 0 homeruns and 11 RBI since August 15. 134 plate appearances in that stretch.