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MLBTR Offseason Outlook on White Sox

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11 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

And the not so good trades…

Santos

Cease

Houser

Robert

Santos, Houser and Robert trades are all fine imo. Fedde/Kopech wasn't great, Cease was bad. 

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  • Y2Jimmy0
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    Santos, Houser and Robert trades are all fine imo. Fedde/Kopech wasn't great, Cease was bad. 

  • The National Equirer is more accurate than that guy.

  • southsider2k5
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    You are a White Sox fan, so it is probably more like a -1 WAR 37 year old 2B who will play 1B poorly.

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6 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

The Santos trade wasn't bad. Cease - yikes. Jury's out on the Houser trade. Same with Robert. 

Oh yeah, they got the 69th pick in the 2024 draft and Santos couldn’t stay healthy.

I think it was Jordan Lazowski who earlier in the offseason floated an Edgar Quero-Wilyer Abreu trade and that would be very intriguing right about now. 

1 hour ago, Reyno45 said:

I think it was Jordan Lazowski who earlier in the offseason floated an Edgar Quero-Wilyer Abreu trade and that would be very intriguing right about now. 

I feel like Boston wouldn’t do that straight up, but who knows. Maybe include Sosa or something and they include a lesser pitcher.

Didn’t want to start a new post just for this, and this felt like the best existing post

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1 hour ago, almagest said:

Didn’t want to start a new post just for this, and this felt like the best existing post

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24 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

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Cool post dude 👍

10 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Oh yeah, they got the 69th pick in the 2024 draft and Santos couldn’t stay healthy.

What happened to Berroa? (also part of that trade).   Haven't see him in a while.   Injured?

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7 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

What happened to Berroa? (also part of that trade).   Haven't see him in a while.   Injured?

He had TJS last spring. Should probably be popping up after June. 

8 hours ago, GreenSox said:

What happened to Berroa? (also part of that trade).   Haven't see him in a while.   Injured?

Yep, he was part of that influx of TJ surgeries last year which sucked.

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I'm not even going to link the POS article, but ESPN put out their top 100. They only have 3 Sox prospects

34. Caleb Bonemer
96. Noah Schultz
100. Billy Carlson

They even used the wrong picture for Schultz. 

 

 

We were mentioned as a landing spot for one of them(I don't think Jon has any info other than we have funds and a starting spot) but I doubt either one of them comes here. 

 

 

also this 

36 minutes ago, Baron said:

 

 

also this 

I would assume a MiLB deal with an invite?  Hasn't been "good" in years.  Anyone have background?  Injury or just not good?

59 minutes ago, Baron said:

 

 

also this 

Another lefty reliever. By my count on the 40-man/NRI, we have:

  • Sean Newcomb (I do believe he gets the chance to start. He's talked about it and probably why he chose here)
  • Tyler Gilbert
  • Brandon Eisert, 2 options remaining
  • Bryan Hudson, 0 (feels like a soon to be DFA when they need to make room for Dominguez)
  • Chris Murphy, 1
  • Ky Bush, 2 (who knows, may be ticketed to pen here when healthy)
  • Ryan Borucki, 0
45 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Another lefty reliever. By my count on the 40-man/NRI, we have:

  • Sean Newcomb (I do believe he gets the chance to start. He's talked about it and probably why he chose here)
  • Tyler Gilbert
  • Brandon Eisert, 2 options remaining
  • Bryan Hudson, 0 (feels like a soon to be DFA when they need to make room for Dominguez)
  • Chris Murphy, 1
  • Ky Bush, 2 (who knows, may be ticketed to pen here when healthy)
  • Ryan Borucki, 0

I wouldn't count on Bush until the ASB.

22 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

I wouldn't count on Bush until the ASB.

I wouldn’t count on any for longer than that.  I’ve pretty much given up all hope…

7 hours ago, Baron said:

 

 

We were mentioned as a landing spot for one of them(I don't think Jon has any info other than we have funds and a starting spot) but I doubt either one of them comes here. 

It arouses my curiosity how fans and young players would react to having one of those living legends on the Sox

any player not signed by spring training doesn't work out well

I'll assume the asking price is way too high for both of them, even the big spenders haven't jumped.  

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Nice Getz interview on the REKAP podcast:

 

 

22 hours ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

He compared them to a team that went 83-79 but then gives them a 12% chance of winning 71 games?

What?

43 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Nice Getz interview on the REKAP podcast:

 

 

Please give me highlights. I can't listen to Kaplan.

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9 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Please give me highlights. I can't listen to Kaplan.

Nothing new, mostly explaining the thinking behind different processes of making the decision to break out Colson in one-on-one coaching in the spring, how Murakami unfolded, etc. 

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Interesting - this would seem like an easy pickup. Former top 100 prospect, LHH RF, 23 years old, still has an option left. It's that old "lack of plate discipline" bug. 

 

FanGraphs had him as Colorado's #5 prospect last year:

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Signed: July 2nd Period, 2019 from Cuba (COL)
Age 22.1 Height 6′ 2″ Weight 215 Bat / Thr L / L FV 45
Tool Grades (Present/Future)
Hit Raw Power Game Power Run Fielding Throw
30/40 60/70 45/55 40/30 30/40 60

Fernandez’s prodigious left-handed power and very exciting long-term frame projection made him a need-to-know prospect while he was still in rookie ball. But as he has accrued more and more pro reps and generated more data, a crack has emerged in his profile: a lack of plate discipline. Even as Fernandez has enjoyed sensational surface-level performance (148 wRC+ and 17 homers in the first half of 2023, 120 wRC+ as a 21-year-old at Double-A Hartford in 2024), he has some concerning underlying indicators in his chase rates (38% chase, 57% chase with two strikes) and a visible issue with high-and-away fastballs that could become more problematic against big league stuff. Fernandez’s swing generates some epic homers, but he’s vulnerable to both whiffs and weak contact when pitchers execute to the outer third of the zone against him. Because Fernandez is a heavy-footed corner guy, he needs to rake to be an impact player, but each of these issues is potentially a real problem for his future offensive output. Jesús Sánchez (who has been okay, more talented than productive) and Oscar Colás (who has really struggled) illustrate the effects of these issues.

 

After struggling down the stretch at Triple-A toward the end of 2024, Fernandez went to the Puerto Rican Winter League and continued to flounder. He is still just 22 and has rare left-handed power; he’s a good prospect but an incredibly risky one despite his precocious mid-minors success. He should get to enough power versus righties to be a good platoon guy.

 

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