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18 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Duh. They're not going to spend much this offseason or next (prior to lock out).

Yeah, it’s pretty hopeless from a payroll perspective for a while. I just hope none of main guys goes backwards, although there is a decent chance a someone will. 

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3 hours ago, WBWSF said:

DJ must think that White Sox ownership is not going to improve the team this off season.

It's very clear they aren't save for more bargain basement pick up's perhaps. And it's even possible JR orders another payroll cut. 

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50 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

It's very clear they aren't save for more bargain basement pick up's perhaps. And it's even possible JR orders another payroll cut. 

I think it's been strongly hinted at that if they keep Robert, Getz has about another $10M to spend. 

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8 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

So he is talking about 2029 essentially.  Interesting.

If thats true that is really terrible.Even hard core fans like myself are tired of losing.

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As much as I like DJ it is impossible to expect honesty from a man in his position. He has been a broadcaster for the Sox for 17 years. He played for them. He travels with the team. His paychecks come from them. How could he possibly say any thing like " they suck and as long as management is who it is i don't see them ever getting very good". I expect him to be biased. He should be biased, but he can not speak truly honestly, he just can't. So take it for what it is. Another Sox fluff piece.

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9 minutes ago, soxrwhite said:

As much as I like DJ it is impossible to expect honesty from a man in his position. He has been a broadcaster for the Sox for 17 years. He played for them. He travels with the team. His paychecks come from them. How could he possibly say any thing like " they suck and as long as management is who it is i don't see them ever getting very good". I expect him to be biased. He should be biased, but he can not speak truly honestly, he just can't. So take it for what it is. Another Sox fluff piece.

You don’t think saying that “they’re going to suck for 3 years” isn’t being honest?

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7 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

You don’t think saying that “they’re going to suck for 3 years” isn’t being honest?

That's exactly what I was going to say.

My own thought is they'll win in the mid-to-upper 70s next season and competing for the division in 2027. They might be "really good" in 2028. He has them two whole years behind that. 

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2 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

That's exactly what I was going to say.

My own thought is they'll win in the mid-to-upper 70s next season and competing for the division in 2027. They might be "really good" in 2028. He has them two whole years behind that. 

There's no injection of talent from the minors this year and Colson's might be one of the most unpredictable future trajectories that you can come up with.

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11 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

There's no injection of talent from the minors this year and Colson's might be one of the most unpredictable future trajectories that you can come up with.

Antonacci, B. Monty, Schultz, McDougal, and they get Thorpe and Adams back. 

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27 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Yeah, I was shocked he put a number to it, especially 3 years.

Yeah a lie would be: this team is going to be competitive the next 3 seasons haha that would be a lie people working for the team would say.

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2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Not in the first half of the season.

What is their starting rotation?

There's only two guys right now you can even count on to fill a spot.

They played .430 ball after the ASB. That rounds up to 70 wins over 162. Next season's rotation probably looks something like Shane Smith, Davis Martin, Gomez, Grant Taylor and a wily, cheap veteran. Burke probably competes for a spot, too. I contend that the same team develops further and adds 5+ wins to their 2nd half performance level. 

You seem to be implying that they won't be able to run a pitcher out there who can do better than Jon Cannon's -0.5 bWAR. That was a weird rule change where MLB stopped letting baseball teams add players in the off-season. 

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12 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

They played .430 ball after the ASB. That rounds up to 70 wins over 162. Next season's rotation probably looks something like Shane Smith, Davis, Gomez, Grant Taylor and a wily, cheap veteran. Burke probably competes for a spot, too. I contend that the same team develops further and adds 5+ wins to their 2nd half performance level. 

You seem to be implying that they won't be able to run a pitcher out there who can do better than Jon Cannon's -0.5 bWAR. That was a weird rule change where MLB stopped letting baseball teams add players in the off-season. 

Finding a decent veteran starter for $5 million will be another fun roll of the dice.  Relying on Gomez?  I don’t see how that is even the rotation of a .500 team.

Also, while some guys will continue to develop, other guys will no doubt experience a sophomore slump.

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