WestEddy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 9 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Let’s wait until if we have too many good hitting MLB ready OFs before we start thinking of moving one. Sure. But my question is - should you be drafting and developing 1B? Use that draft pick on some CC hitting outfielder and bounce your Ryan Galanies over there until a true power hitter comes along. Our Venezuelan shortstops seemed to have moved to 1B quickly as they bulked up. Drunken, World Series commercial naval gazing - if you're doing it right, you're going to have the shortstops and centerfielders who grow out of the position, and the one hitter who can't field can concentrate on 1B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 16 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Would have been worth paying good money to see Rick Hahn versus Mason Miller...probably wouldn't have been able to even stay in the box out of fear of getting hit. (When I took BP against Chuck Tanner's son Bruce at 75-80 mph back in the mid 90s, he kept busting me inside and I ended up launching the fungo bat I was using down the 3B line and it shattered into pieces in the stands. Manager Jeff Banister immediately decided that was the end of me taking BP, since he was royally pissed he had to explain to Pittsburgh why they needed to order another fungo.) only if he wore Florsheim wingtips to the plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 16 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Ramos in the outfield yet another pretty dumb idea. (But that power hitter to move to 1B is probably George Wolkow.) Ramos making the roster out of spring training is kind of a longshot. If he does, he's the best defensive 3B on the team right now (maybe equal to Monty). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 59 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Should they? Why can't they repurpose the worst fielding, best hitting outfield prospect? Right now, Galanie and Caden Connor are the AAAA first-basemen on the clock. They don't have as much power but probably strike out less. I mean if we plan on not sucking this decade it would typically include a real 1B, but this is the Getz era so it may well be the Utility Player of the Month Club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 30 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Let’s wait until if we have too many good hitting MLB ready OFs before we start thinking of moving one. I would start with ANY good ones, but hey, who am I right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Don’t see him on Sox mlb roster again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I mean if we plan on not sucking this decade it would typically include a real 1B, but this is the Getz era so it may well be the Utility Player of the Month Club. Which of Colson Montgomery, Billy Carlson, Roch Cholowsky and Caleb Bonemer is unqualified to play 1B? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) 23 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I would start with ANY good ones, but hey, who am I right? Not going to happen but f*** it, sign Naylor to a 4-5 year deal. Dude isn’t going to get a huge deal, hits left-handed, doesn’t cost a draft pick. Edited October 30 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Not going to happen but f*** it, sign Naylor to a 4-5 year deal. Dude isn’t going to get a huge deal, hits left-handed, doesn’t cost a draft pick. Supposedly the Mariners top priority this off season is signing him. We'll see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeKreevich Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: It's a baseball board. There will be talk about bad baseball here. Shocker that a dude who hit like Elko would have fans immediately jumping off of his bandwagon Well, it's like this. There was no need to denigrate the young man who is trying to follow his dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) Statistics show that only a small fraction of college players—around 10-11%—actually make it to the MLB. https://sportslawblogger.com/what-proportion-of-baseball-players-get-into-the-major-leagues.html Elko has already beaten pretty immense odds just making it to the major leagues...and if he was drafted by about 25 other MLB teams, he still probably wouldn't have made it. Edited October 30 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 35 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Which of Colson Montgomery, Billy Carlson, Roch Cholowsky and Caleb Bonemer is unqualified to play 1B? Today? All of them. Colson has shown to be an actual fielder. Two aren’t 1Bs, and both are YEARS away, at best. One isn't in the organization. Are you just Caulfielding names now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 23 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Not going to happen but f*** it, sign Naylor to a 4-5 year deal. Dude isn’t going to get a huge deal, hits left-handed, doesn’t cost a draft pick. Jerry isn’t spending real money this winter, or next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Today? All of them. Colson has shown to be an actual fielder. Two aren’t 1Bs, and both are YEARS away, at best. One isn't in the organization. Are you just Caulfielding names now? Can I please get a $1 royalty/residual for every time my name is invoked? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Jerry isn’t spending real money this winter, or next. Oh I know. Going to be bare minimum. Saw them as a good landing spot for Lewin Diaz! (A guy who hasn’t played in the MLB since 2022 but hit 50 homers in Korea last season). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) Naylor is still going to get at least $75-80 million despite the concerns about his body type not aging well. He's not going to the White Sox unless every possible option to join an actually competitive organization is taken off the board first. Plus, to JR, there's almost no utility to finishing 3rd or 4th in the Central versus last place. Edited October 30 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Today? All of them. Colson has shown to be an actual fielder. Two aren’t 1Bs, and both are YEARS away, at best. One isn't in the organization. Are you just Caulfielding names now? No. They've shown their philosophy of drafting up the middle. The shortstops and CFers who can't move the best off those positions will move to 3B, 2B, RF and LF. The guys who can't play those will be 1B then DH. Vaughn has shown it's a waste of a top draft choice to draft a one-tool 1B in the first round. Jac Caglianone doesn't refute that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 36 minutes ago, MikeKreevich said: Well, it's like this. There was no need to denigrate the young man who is trying to follow his dream. Mr. Kreevich, your grandson can still be an amazing car salesman one day soon, but major league regular is not in his future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 16 minutes ago, WestEddy said: No. They've shown their philosophy of drafting up the middle. The shortstops and CFers who can't move the best off those positions will move to 3B, 2B, RF and LF. The guys who can't play those will be 1B then DH. Vaughn has shown it's a waste of a top draft choice to draft a one-tool 1B in the first round. Jac Caglianone doesn't refute that. You mean Vaughn Burger and Madrigal...Madrigal lacked the arm and power for third and definitely wouldn't have survived in the OF. Fwiw Carlson still has to prove he can hit with at least 700-725 ops power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) 6 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Mr. Kreevich, your grandson can still be an amazing car salesman one day soon, but major league regular is not in his future. He can have a fine career until early to mid 30s in Mexico Korea Japan Taiwan. Just look at Dayan Viciedo in JPN...although he was originally a more highly rated 3B prospect, obviously. There's also Indy ball as well...although those salaries are far from lucrative. Edited October 30 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 23 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Not going to happen but f*** it, sign Naylor to a 4-5 year deal. Dude isn’t going to get a huge deal, hits left-handed, doesn’t cost a draft pick. Jerry isn’t spending real money this winter, or next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 1 hour ago, WestEddy said: Which of Colson Montgomery, Billy Carlson, Roch Cholowsky and Caleb Bonemer is unqualified to play 1B? Still thinking Colson inevitably moves to 1b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 22 minutes ago, WestEddy said: No. They've shown their philosophy of drafting up the middle. The shortstops and CFers who can't move the best off those positions will move to 3B, 2B, RF and LF. The guys who can't play those will be 1B then DH. Vaughn has shown it's a waste of a top draft choice to draft a one-tool 1B in the first round. Jac Caglianone doesn't refute that. You know you CAN draft power hitters anywhere in the draft right? Listing guys who aren't drafted, and who were drafted as an all glove, we hope he hits, SS is irrelevant. It's blue sky imagineering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 46 minutes ago, MikeKreevich said: Well, it's like this. There was no need to denigrate the young man who is trying to follow his dream. Are you new on the internet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 7 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: You mean Vaughn Burger and Madrigal...Madrigal lacked the arm and power for third and definitely wouldn't have survived in the OF. Fwiw Carlson still has to prove he can hit with at least 700-725 ops power. No, Holden, I mean the words that I said. Getz was not GM when those three were drafted, and Shirley wasn't the scouting director. FWIW, you should probably look over the last couple of drafts before your barrel into a convo with non-sequiturs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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