16 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

They don’t have anywhere near enough pitching to compete if they kept Robert. None of this is about 2026. 

Exactly.  They don't think much of the pitching they currently have both at the top and the guys in the minors if they are this serious about more pitching with the position player situation they have as well.

28 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

They don’t have anywhere near enough pitching to compete if they kept Robert. None of this is about 2026. 

They can buy low on Petty in a trade with the Reds. He had a rough start but didn't we like him before?

Bannister could work with him

9 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

They can buy low on Petty in a trade with the Reds. He had a rough start but didn't we like him before?

Bannister could work with him

Yes. I’d be completely fine with Petty + their comp pic.

 

plus no more Robert which may be the best part of the deal

On 12/21/2025 at 3:26 PM, oldsox said:

Gotcha beat by 1.

-3 here 😆

2 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Yes. I’d be completely fine with Petty + their comp pic.

 

plus no more Robert which may be the best part of the deal

That speaks well to how much other highly educated GMs and analytics teams would value him at...someone half the teams in baseball and maybe closer to 20 would have cut bait on with the $2 million buyout.

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44 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

That speaks well to how much other highly educated GMs and analytics teams would value him at...someone half the teams in baseball and maybe closer to 20 would have cut bait on with the $2 million buyout.

Are these 20 other GMs in the room with us? 

11 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Are these 20 other GMs in the room with us? 

We've had months and months of attemptng to trade Robert and nothing good enough to accept, yet.

Maybe Carlos Rodriguez has some fresh ideas/relationships to plumb?

 

At any rate, this is like the endless arguments about Fairbanks and why he ultimately will get more than 1/$11...that number will be 2/$20-24 instead.

8 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

 

plus no more Robert which may be the best part of the deal

Yea this whole discussion has gotten weird. It's clear posters here want to make a trade for the sake of making a trade. Sox have the worst outfield situation in baseball even with him and he is certainly not even close to blocking anyone. Nothing good can come from him leaving the roster. If there return is great, then whatever, but the thought process above is just really dumb. 

28 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

Yea this whole discussion has gotten weird. It's clear posters here want to make a trade for the sake of making a trade. Sox have the worst outfield situation in baseball even with him and he is certainly not even close to blocking anyone. Nothing good can come from him leaving the roster. If there return is great, then whatever, but the thought process above is just really dumb. 

Your fortunes do not change in 2026 if he is here or not, but it does change from 2027 on if you can trade him for a controllable piece and a comp pick. 

1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said:

Your fortunes do not change in 2026 if he is here or not, but it does change from 2027 on if you can trade him for a controllable piece and a comp pick. 

Arguable but not what I was addressing there.

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1 hour ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

Yea this whole discussion has gotten weird. It's clear posters here want to make a trade for the sake of making a trade. Sox have the worst outfield situation in baseball even with him and he is certainly not even close to blocking anyone. Nothing good can come from him leaving the roster. If there return is great, then whatever, but the thought process above is just really dumb. 

I really get the feeling they now have to move him for SOMETHING after the latest signing.

38 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

I really get the feeling they now have to move him for SOMETHING after the latest signing.

If they need to save 10 million so badly they'd take a return of injured guys and a pick worth $1.5 million then MLB needs to step in because Jerry doesn't understand how to run this business.

Just depends how much of that overhanging debt situation has been cleared.

In Minnesota, the three minority groups added recently were given a 20% share in the team @ $1.75 billion valuation (arguably $150 million too high) in exchange for $500 million to clear/cancel all their debts since 2020  and get back to even.

I’ll predict he goes to Mets, only because the Mets dumped $10M of McNeil’s contract and still need OF help.

 

1 minute ago, fathom said:

 

lol gotta love that reporting. If it happens, could be this week. Could be after.

8 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

lol gotta love that reporting. If it happens, could be this week. Could be after.

And if it doesn't happen, it might not be.

8 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

lol gotta love that reporting. If it happens, could be this week. Could be after.

Could be never

8 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

lol gotta love that reporting. If it happens, could be this week. Could be after.

I think it’s likely close to happening due to the two most recent signings.  Murakami and Newcomb will add $20.5 million to the 2026 payroll.  Robert is due $20 million.

19 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I think it’s likely close to happening due to the two most recent signings.  Murakami and Newcomb will add $20.5 million to the 2026 payroll.  Robert is due $20 million.

Yeah, they're most likely pretty close on parameters and people. If it doesn't blow up, it's days away. 

58 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I think it’s likely close to happening due to the two most recent signings.  Murakami and Newcomb will add $20.5 million to the 2026 payroll.  Robert is due $20 million.

Yeah they need to largely offset that money. 

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I think it’s likely close to happening due to the two most recent signings.  Murakami and Newcomb will add $20.5 million to the 2026 payroll.  Robert is due $20 million.

Eh, players don't start getting checks until March. No rush here although I do expect them to trade him in the offseason rather than at the deadline. 

14 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Eh, players don't start getting checks until March. No rush here although I do expect them to trade him in the offseason rather than at the deadline. 

This is Jerry we are talking about.  I’m sure he wanted to know that once he agreed to pick up Robert’s $20 million dollar option and signed off on Getz picking up additional free agents (Murakami, Newcomb) that there was a plan in place to offset that money by dealing Robert (especially before he gets injured again).  I doubt they even want to risk an injury to him in ST and there seems to be enough interest (Reds, Mets, Pirates) to make a deal.

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39 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

Yeah they need to largely offset that money. 

Why?

21 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Why?

I think part of it is that they want the headache that is Robert gone regardless.  They have been burned by him too many times.  Either way, moving him will free up money.