southsider2k5 Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6816195/2025/11/18/seattle-mariners-jorge-polanco-market-mlb-notes/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983&userId=6062851&source=dailyemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 Would prefer to trade neither for now, but I'd rather see Quero go instead of Teel if one of them is going. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 I know there is always the adage that one might get blown away by an offer and you have to take it; however, please don’t trade either one as the Sox are set at this position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 12 minutes ago, Springfield Soxfan said: I know there is always the adage that one might get blown away by an offer and you have to take it; however, please don’t trade either one as the Sox are set at this position. I'd rather have someone who can play 90% of the time (position player) than Quero, a catcher who can only play 50% of the time. His bat isn't good enough to be a DH, and I prefer Teel by quite a bit. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 18 Author Share Posted November 18 4 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I'd rather have someone who can play 90% of the time (position player) than Quero, a catcher who can only play 50% of the time. His bat isn't good enough to be a DH, and I prefer Teel by quite a bit. You also have to get someone to offer you a full time starter for him. I am guessing that is what they are waiting for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 17 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I'd rather have someone who can play 90% of the time (position player) than Quero, a catcher who can only play 50% of the time. His bat isn't good enough to be a DH, and I prefer Teel by quite a bit. I’m ok with them holding though for at least a year. It’s going to be another non-competitive season anyway. Teel and Quero (barring a trade) should both be in the lineup every day in 2026. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Kuntz Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 (edited) Obviously depends on what is offered, but I think I'd rather keep both for now. If you have to trade one, Quero for sure. Teel can play all games at either C or DH against right handers and occasionally against lefties, Quero catches about half the games and can occasionally DH against lefties. You want Teel's bat for 140-150 games, he has 850 ops potential. Would rather keep both fresh. That changes if they get a legit DH but I don't really see that happening. Plus Quero was a rookie last year and has plenty of room to grow as a hitter. No reason he can't be in the upper 700s ops imo. Edited November 18 by Rusty_Kuntz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 It would be better to sell high on Teel than low on Quero, but you have to have faith Quero can stick in the long run. I would rather trade one of them and use Lee as a backup to give them 100 some games behind the plate. Neither player is going to get better back there starting 50 or 80 games a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 48 minutes ago, striker said: It would be better to sell high on Teel than low on Quero, but you have to have faith Quero can stick in the long run. I would rather trade one of them and use Lee as a backup to give them 100 some games behind the plate. Neither player is going to get better back there starting 50 or 80 games a year. What makes the team better? You might get more for Teel, but does that make up for the drop off of Quero being the every day backstop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 1 hour ago, striker said: It would be better to sell high on Teel than low on Quero, but you have to have faith Quero can stick in the long run. I would rather trade one of them and use Lee as a backup to give them 100 some games behind the plate. Neither player is going to get better back there starting 50 or 80 games a year. Why would trading Quero now be selling low? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 Teel is way too valuable to trade unless the return is insane. I actually like the idea of keeping both Teel and Quero, but if they get a good enough offer for Quero, I could see trading him. Teel/Quero > Teel/Lee but Teel/Lee/Nice trade return > Teel/Quero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 38 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Why would trading Quero now be selling low? That's my contention. Quero's played half a season in the bigs and held his own, offensively. Robo-umps take away his biggest drawback, and if a team doesn't think they can teach a first year catcher how to block better, they should sign Grandal. Quero's a top prospect who hasn't been exposed by MLB pitching. 6 years of control of what looks like a solid starter. That's not "selling low". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 1 hour ago, Tnetennba said: What makes the team better? You might get more for Teel, but does that make up for the drop off of Quero being the every day backstop? I agree, but it all depends on what you get for Teel. The Crochet trade turned this organization around. Imagine if you hit again by trading Teel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 58 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said: Why would trading Quero now be selling low? I think he's better than how he performed. I think he did good but he's more valuable than "good". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 25 minutes ago, WestEddy said: That's my contention. Quero's played half a season in the bigs and held his own, offensively. Robo-umps take away his biggest drawback, and if a team doesn't think they can teach a first year catcher how to block better, they should sign Grandal. Quero's a top prospect who hasn't been exposed by MLB pitching. 6 years of control of what looks like a solid starter. That's not "selling low". +1 to this. Unless a Sox prospect or Sosa/Vargas both become big time sluggers (and absolutely can't learn LF) and force the issue, I don't see any point in giving up on the Teel/Quero/Lee depth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 18 Author Share Posted November 18 44 minutes ago, WestEddy said: That's my contention. Quero's played half a season in the bigs and held his own, offensively. Robo-umps take away his biggest drawback, and if a team doesn't think they can teach a first year catcher how to block better, they should sign Grandal. Quero's a top prospect who hasn't been exposed by MLB pitching. 6 years of control of what looks like a solid starter. That's not "selling low". Looking at this from an acquiring team standpoint, are you willing to pay a starting catcher price for a guy who has his level of experience and success? If teams are not, I am not sure why Getz would be willing to deal him at a price of a part timer, or unproven player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 11 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Looking at this from an acquiring team standpoint, are you willing to pay a starting catcher price for a guy who has his level of experience and success? If teams are not, I am not sure why Getz would be willing to deal him at a price of a part timer, or unproven player. I don't think he would. I'm arguing with the notion that moving Quero would be "selling low". (I don't want them to trade Quero.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 18 Author Share Posted November 18 3 minutes ago, WestEddy said: I don't think he would. I'm arguing with the notion that moving Quero would be "selling low". (I don't want them to trade Quero.) I think "low" is accurate as guys who are still unproven and closer to the "prospect" bucket are valued lower than guys who are "proven" at the major league level. It's why a deal like the deal that brought Teel to the White Sox happen. Even though potential is high, it isn't realized yet, so those guys are valued at a fraction of what they would be if they were major league proven. If you sell him and he turns into a full time starter, you almost certainly sold "low" with how he would be valued as of today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Even though potential is high, it isn't realized yet A large part of it has. Quero has made the jump to the bigs, and didn't put up a .375 OPS. He hit. Sure, he still needs to grow into the different corners of his prospect, but he's no longer a complete unknown prospect. His gap power will expand as he grows up. I think Quero has a lot more value than the top AAA catching prospect who still hasn't played a game in the bigs. Sure, Quero putting up a very solid full season offensively and defensively would increase his value, but you're going to burn a cheap pre-arb year getting to that value. It's a limited market. A team who doesn't see themselves ready this season, but having the spot for Quero to grow into - may not want to wait a year to pay more for him. This is mostly academic, as I don't think Getz is going to move Quero or Teel for anything short of a monster return relative to their respective values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 18 Author Share Posted November 18 4 minutes ago, WestEddy said: A large part of it has. Quero has made the jump to the bigs, and didn't put up a .375 OPS. He hit. Sure, he still needs to grow into the different corners of his prospect, but he's no longer a complete unknown prospect. His gap power will expand as he grows up. I think Quero has a lot more value than the top AAA catching prospect who still hasn't played a game in the bigs. Sure, Quero putting up a very solid full season offensively and defensively would increase his value, but you're going to burn a cheap pre-arb year getting to that value. It's a limited market. A team who doesn't see themselves ready this season, but having the spot for Quero to grow into - may not want to wait a year to pay more for him. This is mostly academic, as I don't think Getz is going to move Quero or Teel for anything short of a monster return relative to their respective values. I think there is a difference between maybe a starter, and an established starter, and that's why he doesn't get moved. That's where the "selling low" idea comes in. It is shorthand for the difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johno Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 Absolutely have to keep both. The catcher position is prone to injuries, they can’t afford to trade one of these catchers, only to see the other one get hurt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxrwhite Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 2 hours ago, striker said: I agree, but it all depends on what you get for Teel. The Crochet trade turned this organization around. Imagine if you hit again by trading Teel. If you let Teel go and what you get in return flops, then in essence, you also gave away Crochet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 18 Share Posted November 18 They’re not trading Teel guys. Not even worth talking about 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, soxrwhite said: If you let Teel go and what you get in return flops, then in essence, you also gave away Crochet. Braden always had the most upside, although lower ranked than Teel due to college injury and no MiLB at bats. Edited November 19 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 19 Share Posted November 19 5 hours ago, striker said: I agree, but it all depends on what you get for Teel. The Crochet trade turned this organization around. Imagine if you hit again by trading Teel. Teel won’t have nearly the same value. Trading him for more uncertainty doesn’t move the needle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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