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Just now, Timmy U said:

I think they bring them all to Camelback Ranch and let God sort 'em out. Of those 6 lefties, exactly zero are anything like a sure thing for a high-leverage role.

At least one of Gilbert or Hudson have to be on the bubble. Neither has options left, and that's the most valuable thing about any of these guys. 

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11 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Oh you mean like the thought police who wanted our thoughts to be embarassed because Smith was our best SP ? 

Yes, I mean like reframing an completely different argument that was made into something that was never actually presented and then repeating as if it was fact, good job.

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49 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Yes, I mean like reframing an completely different argument that was made into something that was never actually presented and then repeating as if it was fact, good job.

Wait, this is about the guy who was making fun of somebody who didn't know how embarrassing it was to have a pitcher make an All-Star team. The same guy who badgered the people who gave the Sox a B grade for the season, and wouldn't let it drop? 

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56 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Wait, this is about the guy who was making fun of somebody who didn't know how embarrassing it was to have a pitcher make an All-Star team. The same guy who badgered the people who gave the Sox a B grade for the season, and wouldn't let it drop? 

C’mon West Eddy, that wasn’t the point that people were trying to make.  At least I know I wasn’t.  It was awesome that Getz and crew were able to scout out Smith and he turned into an All-Star starting pitcher.  The question I asked is how in the heck could the team not already have a single starting pitching talent that performed as well or better than a Rule 5 draft pick in 2025?  That is the messed up part.  Once again, how could Getz and crew not already have a starter on the roster that could put up a 2.3 bWAR?  And don’t say Crochet, because we already knew he was going to be traded in the offseason.  Also, Hahn drafted Crochet, not Getz.

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1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

C’mon West Eddy, that wasn’t the point that people were trying to make.  At least I know I wasn’t.  It was awesome that Getz and crew were able to scout out Smith and he turned into an All-Star starting pitcher.  The question I asked is how in the heck could the team not already have a single starting pitching talent that performed as well or better than a Rule 5 draft pick in 2025?  That is the messed up part.  Once again, how could Getz and crew not already have a starter on the roster that could put up a 2.3 bWAR?  And don’t say Crochet, because we already knew he was going to be traded in the offseason.  Also, Hahn drafted him, not Getz.

1) The assembled playoff core fell apart, all at once. They had better pitchers. They traded them. That's what teams do in a rebuild. 
2) Why was Shane Smith the best pitcher? Why is anybody the best pitcher? Somebody has to be the best pitcher. If it turned out to be Wikelman Gonzalez, then we could joke that the Sox had to get their best pitcher from elsewhere. If it was Davis Martin, then we could joke that the best pitcher was a 14th rounder coming back from injury. If it was Cannon, then the joke would be that a #5 junk-baller was their best pitcher. 
3) I get the point people were making. Our best pitcher was left off another team's 40-man. That's great that you find that sad. I don't get the points you're trying to make. Why don't I get to say Crochet? He was on this team. They traded him. Cease was on the team. They traded him. They had 3 starting pitchers pretty much ready to go. Martin, Burke and Cannon. Smith was better. So what? Why do I have to be embarrassed or saddened by that? 
4) I also don't get your obsession with reminding me that Hahn was the GM when Crochet was drafted. So what? 
5) Are you also implying that the Sox should have had an entire top prospect team ready to go in 2024 when the old core fell apart? That's not how rebuilds work. 
6) But really, the funniest part of all of this is RayRay saying that Vinny Capra was better than Shane Smith because Capra was on the 40-man, and Smith wasn't, and by extension, because Smith made the All-Star team, Vinny Capra was the best player on the White Sox in 2025. That's the messed up part. 

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