LUIS ROBERT TRADED

[WhiteSox2023]

13 minutes ago, fathom said:

Who signed already that you think would have been realistic?  They also waited because they wanted someone to cave and take on the whole deal.

I’m not disagreeing with you but then how does any of this make the Sox better?  There really isn’t an outfielder available that is better than Robert.  I guess you could argue Bader after last season but that isn’t likely to continue and I don’t see the Sox going after him.  Are they adding one of the top starting pitchers remaining, like a Bassitt?

Edited 1 hour ago by WhiteSox2023

[ChiSoxFanMike]

2 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Clearly you havent paid much attention the arguments as to how the Murakami signing changed the dynamic on how they may have viewed trading Robert. 

Well the fact that they needed to trade Robert just to pay Murakami is pathetic in itself, but this is a Jerry Reinsdorf owned franchise we’re talking about.

[WhiteSox2023]

8 minutes ago, fathom said:

They feel they need 2-3 pieces for that same 20 million.

That’s going to be the same pile of junk we have seen both Hahn and Getz acquire in the past several seasons.

Edited 1 hour ago by WhiteSox2023

[ChiSoxFanMike]

4 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

That’s going to be the same pile of junk we have seen both Hahn and Getz acquire in the past several seasons.

Did see this just now which is interesting.

[GreenSox]

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Whether you are right or wrong, look at @fathom‘s post of players and your own.  Which players do you think the Sox are more likely to add?

I realize that - @fathom lists the players that he thinks Sox will add; I'm listing the ones that I hope the Sox will add.   I agree his list is more likely.

[Bob Sacamano]

They were just kindling names out there. No way they sign Bader

[poppysox]

35 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

The other thing I don’t understand about this is the timing. If they were going to dump Robert all along, why not do it at the beginning of the offseason? Because at this point, the free agent group is pretty picked over.

The free agents in our price range are still available.

[WhiteSox2023]

8 minutes ago, poppysox said:

The free agents in our price range are still available.

There are still good FA starters available but there is nothing but mostly mediocre to garbage FA outfielders remaining.  I don’t see the Sox signing Bader so Hays is probably the best remaining FA outfielder available.

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[T R U]

2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I was one of those people and unless the money is redeployed, then I’m willing to admit I was wrong.  But by doing so, Caulfield comes back and with a vengeance.

Well Getz alluded to the money being redeployed so we may all remain safe for now.

[WhiteSox2023]

I’m not sure he even believes the BS he is spouting at this point.

 

[WhiteSox2023]

5 minutes ago, T R U said:

Well Getz alluded to the money being redeployed so we may all remain safe for now.

The ban bet only lasts until the offseason is over.  No one is safe for much longer…

[Soxfest]

Sox will use 10 million and JR will pocket the other 10.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

3 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

Well the fact that they needed to trade Robert just to pay Murakami is pathetic in itself, but this is a Jerry Reinsdorf owned franchise we’re talking about.

There was always a decent amount of risk in holding Robert into the season because of his performance and health issues. The unexpected Murakami signing had multiple layers Robert didnt have, opening up the Sox in the Japanese market again, perhaps a better trade return than Robert if he can retain his LH power and OBP from  NPB to MLB, more reasons to think the Murakami contract is more likely to cost less with an uptick in season ticket sales and advertising money and the Japanese community attention. 

They just decided to cut bait on Robert and mitigate that risk he had attached to him.

If the Murakami signing is bringing money into the organization it mitigates some of his downsize risk and opens up a chance that a good performance from him could mean a better trade return than they'd get from Robert since OBP and massive LH power is quite valuable. 

They werent planning on dumping Robert for what they got all along, they just decided to cut their losses , make a little bit on the return because Murakami means more the Sox now than Robert. 

So yeah it was better for JR regarding money. Robert contract off the books, Murakami Money Maker. JR says MMM delicious !

[Reyno45]

I may be in the minority but I want nothing to do with Bader, Conforto, or Hays 

[PaleAleSox]

2 minutes ago, Reyno45 said:

I may be in the minority but I want nothing to do with Bader, Conforto, or Hays 

I would like Bader. He is a master. 

[Kyyle23]

4 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

I would like Bader. He is a master. 

*grudging upvote*

[Reyno45]

8 minutes ago, Reyno45 said:

I may be in the minority but I want nothing to do with Bader, Conforto, or Hays 

I just don’t get signing a veteran when you just said Acuna needs an open runway. I’d rather live with Acuna’s struggles than watch Bader add maybe 1 win if that. I would be much much much more open to a trade though to acquire a young controllable OF

[2Deep]

17 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I’m not sure he even believes the BS he is spouting at this point.

 

He's full of s%*#

💩

[Lukakke Appling]

I’m just gonna post this and leave it alone because I don’t want to sound like the board police or some kind of dickhead, but in my opinion the constant bickering and frankly childish posting is damaging what this place could be. 
 

Every now and then you’ll see someone create a long, well thought out post and it’s quickly buried and forgotten by the same arguing in circles every thread. It isn’t a great way to encourage traffic from potentially new and informed posters. Again, in my opinion. 
 

Anyways, we’re all cheering for the same team. Except caulfield, and he’s banned. 

[Kyyle23]

Signing Bader, the outcome to me would probably be similar to when they signed Pillar for defense and leadership and cut him loose before May because he isn’t hitting well.  If you are gonna let the kids play then let them play, don’t force some good teams bench older player in there 

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

15 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

I would like Bader. He is a master. 

 Master Bader ? 

[ChiSox59]

4 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

Luis Robert won't be on the next good White Sox team. Acuna and Pauley might be. It's basically that simple. The league just told you what Robert is worth. Holding him into the season would be insane. He'll be hurt again. He's unreliable and I'm glad it's over. 

How is it insane? They'd be in the exact same position they're in anyway if he got hurt. Unless you're concerns about saving ownership $20M on the already lowest payroll in the game. 

[Y2Jimmy0]

55 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

So they should have just kept Robert then because the reallocation of this $20 million won’t be on anyone of significance.

This is easy. Robert won’t be on the next good Sox team. Acuna and Pauley might be. It’s that simple for me. No brainer. 

[Y2Jimmy0]

2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

How is it insane? They'd be in the exact same position they're in anyway if he got hurt. Unless you're concerns about saving ownership $20M on the already lowest payroll in the game. 

You run the risk of getting even less than this. Rental bats bring back nothing at the deadline. 

[Bob Sacamano]

13 minutes ago, Reyno45 said:

I just don’t get signing a veteran when you just said Acuna needs an open runway. I’d rather live with Acuna’s struggles than watch Bader add maybe 1 win if that. I would be much much much more open to a trade though to acquire a young controllable OF

It's probably for a corner spot with Benintendi getting more DH reps. Personally would rather see Baldwin just play a spot.