White Sox sign RHP Seranthony Domínguez, 2/20M

[ptatc]

30 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Passan said its the right direction  and it is . No one is dancing a jig and envisioning playoffs.  But maybe a path to a few more prospects and a bit more consistent winning while the foundational base thickens and prepares to one day be good enough to help the new owner be happy about what he's getting. 

This. All of the moves are to make improvements with placeholders until the prospects are ready. They know they aren't playoff ready and are approaching it that way.

Edited 1 hour ago by ptatc

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

53 minutes ago, fathom said:

Love the idea of getting a closer that they can flip. Still think Taylor should be moved if teams have a huge price on him.

Teams only pay huge price for proven huge talent. Unproven or faded talent in the majors that never had much of a top prospect profile like Taylor is not in the huge category.

Right now he's just in development to see if he can be effective in multiple innings to see if he can start one day ,like Crochet ,once his body gets stronger. 

If that development path doesnt work out he then becomes a single inning high leverage reliever or closer where he can build a proven resume. 

[Chicago White Sox]

10 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

I'm going to look through this over the weekend because I just don't see it happening and probably for a few reasons.

It's not good to sign players with the intent to trade them. These are human beings after all, and guys don't like to sign to be moved, so from that perspective it's probably not a great PR strategy. 

Additionally, bad teams don't invest in bullpens because there is a premium attached to those signings based on the increased rate a good team will pay to gain small margins. Bullpens are like icing, in that you shouldn't be spending much time applying it if you don't have a cake first. 

So outside of fans dreaming these scenarios up, there just aren't many examples of a guy signing a RP contract and being worth substantially more 3 months later. Sox would be better off trying to showcase Taylor as the closer to maximize his value given his control and value in my opinion.

They want to build up Taylor’s innings in a multi-inning capacity and eventually turn him into a SP down the road.  I’m skeptical it will work out just as I was with Crochet and I was wrong there.  Regardless, Leasure was the likely closer before this move.

And generally agree with your views on bullpen investment, but disagree on one key component.  One of the advantages rebuilding teams have is the ability to give players extended runways.  That could be for a young, unproven player or could be using a player at a new, more valuable spot or role.  You and I have debated this topic before, as I am big fan of adding post hype prospects who haven’t been given extended opportunities.  Pereira is an example of a guy I like going out and adding vs. say someone like Kelenic who has vast failures to believe can suddenly turn the ship around.  I have been a huge proponent of taking advantage of our s%*# OF situation and letting Baldwin learn on the fly out there (and ideally play a lot CF).  And finally, there is intrinsic value to pitching well in high leverage situations vs. low and medium ones (fWAR accounts for this for a reason).  Proven closers routinely return some of the best value come the trade deadline.  Even if your team isn’t trying to win, that closer should be utilized on a guy who has stuff and if successful can turn into a trade chip.

[WhiteSox2023]

42 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

I dunno. Everyone here mostly tells me how dogshit it's been. 

Let’s be honest, they are nice signings for a frugal team but baseball fans are used to the Dodgers and Mets offseasons.

[Baron]

4 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Let’s be honest, they are nice signings for a frugal team but baseball fans are used to the Dodgers and Mets offseasons.

You need to read around a little bit. There's universal praise for the White Sox offseason. 

 

Look under the reddit thread for this signing. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Baron

[Eminor3rd]

Good move, clear need, tradeable if things go well. 

Bonkers that it needed to wait until Robert money was moved. 

[WhiteSox2023]

2 minutes ago, Baron said:

You need to read around a little bit. There's universal praise for the White Sox offseason. 

 

Look under the reddit thread for this signing. 

Once again, I said they were nice signings.  But this isn’t some amazing big market team’s offseason.

[Baron]

2 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Once again, I said they were nice signings.  But this isn’t some amazing big market team’s offseason.

Ok. 

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

9 minutes ago, ptatc said:

This. All of the moves are to make improvements with placeholders until the prospects are ready. They know they aren't playoff ready and are approaching 8t that way.

Exactly it's how you approach a rebuild. Its like evolution. Enviromental adaptation changes your DNA. There will be strengths along with weaknesses while the guy at the top loses his power. The environment will change again when ownership changes and then the approach will maintain its foundational base  while having more money. 

[FriendlyNorthsider]

I really like this move. Much moreso if it’s part of a larger strategy to use short term spending to get guys that you can flip for prospects at the deadline. If the Sox are just going to spend a bit more to get back up to where they were pre-Robert trade I’m less enthused but like it. 
 

This should be prime spending season on guys with a slow market. I’m hoping Getz is on the phone with Gallen, Suarez, and Frambers agents. Gallen is a great candidate for this especially if the Orioles give Framber what he wants. The Sox need innings and Gallen needs to repair his value. The Sox can give him a high(er)AAV 2-3year deal with a club option for after this year. If hes good you have a moveable asset, if not you cut ties after this season. No contending teams (except maybe my cubs for some reason) want to gamble that Gallens drop off last year was an aberration. They can’t afford the tax commitment or to have a 4.83 ERA pitcher pitching for them all season. 
 

Right now he’s projected for 4 years 76M (19M AAV) If you sign him for 3 years 66M  (22M AAV) with a 5M opt out after this year you gamble 27M on the chance that a 2 year/44M deal for Gallen is attractive and can net you prospects. If Gallens market is a little more competitive you can slightly front load it to make his 1st year guarantee 30M. If his best offer is 4/75, Gallen would be giving up a guaranteed 35M/3 years if the option was exercised. Hed be a free agent going into the new cap situation and would likely be able to make that money as a depth starter. If he hit, he’d get to go to free agency a year earlier.  

Gallen finished in the top 5 in the NL CY in 2022 and 2023. He had an ERA+ of 115 in 2024. He hasn’t had a huge Velo drop and is 30 years old.  You need innings filled anyway so the actual risk is lowered. 
 

Peralta, Cabrera, and Gore are now off the market  which should make this year a good year for sellers on SP at the deadline. To me it’s a no brainer  but I’m sure Jerry feels differently. 
 

Now that the old core is gone the Sox won’t have much they can move at the deadline. If your contention window is still 3-4 years out you need to keep the system stocked for when it’s time to buy. The draft and IFA will help but you can only take so many slices out of that pie before it’s gone. Building through free agency is expensive and not realistic given the current environment where the Dodgers and Mets are willing to match anything. If you want to get potential impact players in trades you have to take risks and there is no better time for a risk than when you have nothing to lose.

Edited 1 hour ago by FriendlyNorthsider

[T R U]

2 minutes ago, Baron said:

You need to read around a little bit. There's universal praise for the White Sox offseason. 

I most excited that its pretty much a team full of young players with something to prove and I don't have to watch a bunch of worthless veterans taking a lot of at bats.

[WhiteSox2023]

2 minutes ago, Baron said:

Ok. 

Development of the Sox own players will mean way more to the team than any of these additions.  Everyone is excited over Murakami but the dude could be gone in two years before the Sox ever even make the postseason.

[WhiteSox2023]

1 minute ago, T R U said:

I most excited that its pretty much a team full of young players with something to prove and I don't have to watch a bunch of worthless veterans taking a lot of at bats.

This is why I am hoping Getz passes on adding a “starting” outfielder.  I really don’t want to watch the likes of Conforto wasting Sox at bats.

[southsider2k5]

6 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said:

Good move, clear need, tradeable if things go well. 

Bonkers that it needed to wait until Robert money was moved. 

This is 100% accurate.  Wild we needed to get to literally the lowest expected payroll before we could spend a whole 10 million dollars on one player.

[Baron]

3 minutes ago, T R U said:

I most excited that its pretty much a team full of young players with something to prove and I don't have to watch a bunch of worthless veterans taking a lot of at bats.

Absolutely. But they deserve to be rewarded if they are up 1-2 runs. This bullpen needs to be better. 

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

55 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

I dunno. Everyone here mostly tells me how dogshit it's been. 

The writers for the game should be embarrassed for praising any team that is spending less than 100 million dollars. 

[WBWSF]

All Getz has to do now is add a good outfielder and a good starting pitcher and this team should be good. White Sox fans will be dancing in the street once this team starts winning games in 2026!!!!

[2Deep]

Good signing 

Need more quality players but can't be upset with this move

[kwill]

I am just going to s%*# on this because of the process. 

1. Again, the idea we had to get rid of Roberts' salary to clear the way to sign a reliever for ten million dollars a year is absurd. 

2. Why are we embracing flip candidates? I will get excited when we actually start building a sustainable roster with good players, rather than just signing them to reasonable deals only to trade them away to contending teams. 

3.  I stil believe that Robert is undervalued here. The truth is find centerfielders who are gold glovers, steal 40 bases and hit 20 home runs a year is very rare. I understand that he will only play 120 games. However, that's his floor. That's not a bad floor for a team that has very few good players on it. 

4. I really liked watching Luis. He was exciting to watch. I will miss him and hope he reaches his potential with the Mets. 

[southsider2k5]

2 minutes ago, kwill said:

I am just going to s%*# on this because of the process. 

1. Again, the idea we had to get rid of Roberts' salary to clear the way to sign a reliever for ten million dollars a year is absurd. 

2. Why are we embracing flip candidates? I will get excited when we actually start building a sustainable roster with good players, rather than just signing them to reasonable deals only to trade them away to contending teams. 

3.  I stil believe that Robert is undervalued here. The truth is find centerfielders who are gold glovers, steal 40 bases and hit 20 home runs a year is very rare. I understand that he will only play 120 games. However, that's his floor. That's not a bad floor for a team that has very few good players on it. 

4. I really liked watching Luis. He was exciting to watch. I will miss him and hope he reaches his potential with the Mets. 

Let's be honest.  This team is still hot garbage, and will be for the foreseeable future.  If you are waiting for the Sox to be good again before you invest, believe me you aren't alone, and you might as well check out for the next couple of years at least.  I can give credit to progress, and this is a move that can at least pay a dividend more than filling innings in 2026.

[Lip Man 1]

Interesting signing although his walks could be a problem.

[ChiSoxFanMike]

20 minutes ago, FriendlyNorthsider said:

I really like this move. Much moreso if it’s part of a larger strategy to use short term spending to get guys that you can flip for prospects at the deadline. If the Sox are just going to spend a bit more to get back up to where they were pre-Robert trade I’m less enthused but like it. 
 

This should be prime spending season on guys with a slow market. I’m hoping Getz is on the phone with Gallen, Suarez, and Frambers agents. Gallen is a great candidate for this especially if the Orioles give Framber what he wants. The Sox need innings and Gallen needs to repair his value. The Sox can give him a high(er)AAV 2-3year deal with a club option for after this year. If hes good you have a moveable asset, if not you cut ties after this season. No contending teams (except maybe my cubs for some reason) want to gamble that Gallens drop off last year was an aberration. They can’t afford the tax commitment or to have a 4.83 ERA pitcher pitching for them all season. 
 

Right now he’s projected for 4 years 76M (19M AAV) If you sign him for 3 years 66M  (22M AAV) with a 5M opt out after this year you gamble 27M on the chance that a 2 year/44M deal for Gallen is attractive and can net you prospects. Gallen finished in the top 5 in the NL CY in 2022 and 2023. He had an ERA+ of 115 in 2024. He hasn’t had a huge Velo drop and is 30 years old.  You need innings filled anyway so the actual risk is lowered. 
 

Peralta, Cabrera, and Gore are now off the market  which should make this year a good year for sellers on SP at the deadline. To me it’s a no brainer  but I’m sure Jerry feels differently. 
 

Now that the old core is gone the Sox won’t have much they can move at the deadline. If your contention window is still 3-4 years out you need to keep the system stocked for when it’s time to buy. The draft and IFA will help but you can only take so many slices out of that pie before it’s gone. Building through free agency is expensive and not realistic given the current environment where the Dodgers and Mets are willing to match anything. If you want to get potential impact players in trades you have to take risks and there is no better time for a risk than when you have nothing to lose 

Problem with Gallen and Valdez is that they have the QO attached to them. As much as I’d like to improve the rotation, I don’t think they are in the position to be forfeiting draft picks just yet.

[Lip Man 1]

9 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

All Getz has to do now is add a good outfielder and a good starting pitcher and this team should be good. White Sox fans will be dancing in the street once this team starts winning games in 2026!!!!

Define "good."

Losing less than 100 games would be an improvement but hardly good.

Sox fans will be dancing when Ishbia takes over. Until then? Probably not. 

[T R U]

4 minutes ago, kwill said:

I am just going to s%*# on this because of the process. 

1. Again, the idea we had to get rid of Roberts' salary to clear the way to sign a reliever for ten million dollars a year is absurd. 

2. Why are we embracing flip candidates? I will get excited when we actually start building a sustainable roster with good players, rather than just signing them to reasonable deals only to trade them away to contending teams. 

3.  I stil believe that Robert is undervalued here. The truth is find centerfielders who are gold glovers, steal 40 bases and hit 20 home runs a year is very rare. I understand that he will only play 120 games. However, that's his floor. That's not a bad floor for a team that has very few good players on it. 

4. I really liked watching Luis. He was exciting to watch. I will miss him and hope he reaches his potential with the Mets. 

For point #2, this team is not close to being a contending team. Not close at all.

Signing a flip candidate like this, and having it actually get executed, is a major win. It will expedite the second half of your point there.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

Just thought I'd take this opportunity to say with the guidance of the Pope working through the Sox front office we now have a Jedi (Jedixson Paez) , an  Angel ( Luisangel Acuna) and a Knight ( Seranthony).

Any player names out there that are synonymous with things like faith,  hope, love, kindness, forgiveness the Sox can get ? 

Edited 1 hour ago by CaliSoxFanViaSWside