1 minute ago, Lip Man 1 said:

So really nothing has changed from the last few seasons.

I had hoped the Sox would play some meaningful games after June 1. Looks like that hope may be misplaced.

8th time in the 12 games played they've scored three runs or less.

Obviously that's a problem.

I can’t believe some predicted this team to win at least 75 games.

Do I remember correctly that Everson Pereira is expected back before long?

1 minute ago, JoshPR said:

Not impressed at all with Mune

He's still doing much better than Colson.

866 ops is more than I expected his first year was thinking around 825

1 minute ago, fathom said:

I can’t believe some predicted this team to win at least 75 games.

Poor Fegan and his eternal optimism.

6 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said:

Glad we really capitalized on the sweep of Toronto

Just when they pull us back in...they pull out the rug from under us again.

2 minutes ago, Jake said:

Do I remember correctly that Everson Pereira is expected back before long?

Does it matter at this point?

But can he execute the fake bunt routine?

1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

Poor Fegan and his eternal optimism.

I’m sure Getz will use it at the end of the year saying “the injuries hurt us, before them, some projected a nearly .500 roster”

1 minute ago, wegner said:

Just when they pull us back in...they pull out the rug from under us again.

McGuire needs to pull back out...

3 minutes ago, Jake said:

Do I remember correctly that Everson Pereira is expected back before long?

I believe going on rehab assignment 1st though

1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said:

On pace for about 50 wins. Amazing. Fire this fucking clown Getz.

I'm beginning to believe this manager should go also. He's been using Taylor as a one inning starting pitcher which is a waste of his talent. He would improve our bullpen. Today the team had runners on with one out in the 7th inning and a lefty pitching for the Orioles. He had Sosa on the bench and instead he pinched hit somebody else who grounded into a DP. i would think most managers would have had Sosa hitting in that situation. I've thought from the beginning of this season that this management doesn't care if they win. The main objective is to keep the payroll as low as possible. I still feel that way.

1 minute ago, fathom said:

I’m sure Getz will use it at the end of the year saying “the injuries hurt us, before them, some projected a nearly .500 roster”

But Antonacci and Braden will save us in 2027.

Realistically though, have to wait for Bonemer/Roch 2028.

2 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

I'm beginning to believe this manager should go also. He's been using Taylor as a one inning starting pitcher which is a waste of his talent. He would improve our bullpen. Today the team had runners on with one out in the 7th inning and a lefty pitching for the Orioles. He had Sosa on the bench and instead he pinched hit somebody else who grounded into a DP. i would think most managers would have had Sosa hitting in that situation. I've thought from the beginning of this season that this management doesn't care if they win. The main objective is to keep the payroll as low as possible. I still feel that way.

Meanwhile Guardians at $70 million payroll (30th) and emerging as a dark horse WS candidate.

6 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

I'm beginning to believe this manager should go also. He's been using Taylor as a one inning starting pitcher which is a waste of his talent. He would improve our bullpen. Today the team had runners on with one out in the 7th inning and a lefty pitching for the Orioles. He had Sosa on the bench and instead he pinched hit somebody else who grounded into a DP. i would think most managers would have had Sosa hitting in that situation. I've thought from the beginning of this season that this management doesn't care if they win. The main objective is to keep the payroll as low as possible. I still feel that way.

I have supported Will but he's made some head scratching decisions this year. part of me thinks it's coming from Getz. They clearly don't rate Sosa, which is incredible given our lack of overall hitting.

7 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

I'm beginning to believe this manager should go also. He's been using Taylor as a one inning starting pitcher which is a waste of his talent. He would improve our bullpen. Today the team had runners on with one out in the 7th inning and a lefty pitching for the Orioles. He had Sosa on the bench and instead he pinched hit somebody else who grounded into a DP. i would think most managers would have had Sosa hitting in that situation. I've thought from the beginning of this season that this management doesn't care if they win. The main objective is to keep the payroll as low as possible. I still feel that way.

Agree there is no reason not to use Sosa in that situation....Venable should definitely be asked about that.

9 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

I'm beginning to believe this manager should go also. He's been using Taylor as a one inning starting pitcher which is a waste of his talent. He would improve our bullpen. Today the team had runners on with one out in the 7th inning and a lefty pitching for the Orioles. He had Sosa on the bench and instead he pinched hit somebody else who grounded into a DP. i would think most managers would have had Sosa hitting in that situation. I've thought from the beginning of this season that this management doesn't care if they win. The main objective is to keep the payroll as low as possible. I still feel that way.

they would've brought in a rhp to face sosa btw (they still should've brought Sosa in tho)

1 minute ago, wegner said:

Agree there is no reason not to use Sosa in that situation....Venable should definitely be asked about that.

1 minute ago, wegner said:

Agree there is no reason not to use Sosa in that situation....Venable should definitely be asked about that.

The only thing that i can figure is Sosa isn't highly thought of by the manager. It wouldn't surprise me if Sosa was moved off the team sooner rather than later.

1 minute ago, WBWSF said:

The only thing that i can figure is Sosa isn't highly thought of by the manager. It wouldn't surprise me if Sosa was moved off the team sooner rather than later.

I agree that has to be it.

Same for Korey Lee?

Yeah, even if he's a complete idiot jerkface Sosa should be DHing. They need offense so bad right now. 11 runs given up in 3 games is a winnable series.

Hopefully the bats warm up once they get Hays, Teel and Pereira back, and start bringing up some guys from the minors.

they're gonna get swept in kc

1 minute ago, joejoesox said:

they're gonna get swept in kc

Wouldn't it be something if they got swept in KC and the manager gets fired?

1 minute ago, WBWSF said:

Wouldn't it be something if they got swept in KC and the manager gets fired?

Venable is safe

7 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

they're gonna get swept in kc

They need Matt Davidson to be their spirit animal and hopefully win 1.

10 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

Wouldn't it be something if they got swept in KC and the manager gets fired?

Buddy keep dreamin

see, the main issue is Chris Getz being allowed to make decisions, once they fix that, the team might start turning the corner

I'm not big on predictions but as far as W-L my main goal for the Sox this year is don't lose 100 games. Beyond that, given that I don't think there was any world in which they'd be a stone's throw from the last wild card spot, it's ultimately all about identifying the players and positions you're going to have covered going forward. 75 wins on the backs of a Fedde-Benny renaissance would be worse than 65 wins with strong seasons by 3-5 <27-year-old guys.

I'm really looking forward to getting Teel back and seeing whether he can 1. maintain last year's performance and 2. take a step forward from there. After that, the most likely to be interesting breakout guys are Braden Montgomery and Sam Antonacci. What Colson is going to do is an important question that I don't know the answer to. I think Chase and Vargas are pretty likely to be solid everyday players with neither super likely to take a star turn. I think Lenyn deserves to play just about every day but I see him as harder to predict...flashing power potential has increased his upside but he's become increasingly one-dimensional and his approach makes his profile risky. Luisangel is a wildcard who I'd like to see play every day but am not really counting on for anything. I feel similarly about Pereira but would be less afraid to cut bait with him if he has a bad few weeks of play.

Performance of Braden Montgomery is pretty important to me because there's a serious void of impact talent between AA and AAA besides him. I think there's going to be enough solid guys I think but not a ton of upside guys around from AA upwards... I'd say you're looking at just the two Montgomerys and Teel (and Teel is somewhat living on positional adjustments for that eval). I'm not counting Mune here because of his contract status. Bonemer is a nice prospect of course but he's far enough from MLB that I'm not going to key in on his performance this year too much.

On the pitching side, to me the Earth revolves around the two lefties in AAA. There are plenty of other developments that can matter but they're the most interesting pieces and the ones that still seem to have a very wide variety of potential outcomes in front of them. I'll admit to moving my own evaluation of Schultz towards a lower ceiling and higher floor but still that ceiling includes some potentially very high value. I hold out some hope for getting value from Thorpe as well so it will be interesting to see how he looks when he returns. There's a critical mass of potential innings-eaters types so sorting out the Burke-Smith-Cannon-Sandlin-Davitt-Bush-etc. is important business but kind of boring.