James Kruk, by the way, is the head athletic trainer who was in charge of Luis Robert during the majority of his Sox career.

2 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

In other words, Getz is excused of trading Robert for a utility scrub that makes Leury Garcia look like a perennial All-Star. And it’s all the fault of Sox fans!

Or we can simply blame him and JR for extending the contract into 2025/26 when cutting bait entirely seemed the most prudent course after the last two seasons.

There was no surplus value remaining after those two injury plagued and underperforming years...which is how exactly Getz ended up with a -0.6 fWAR value "suspect" player.

Would have been better to take on Vientos, and simply turn around to trade him, too.

Edited Wednesday at 01:21 PM2 days by caulfield12

If we were to cull out all posts that have nothing to do with the signing of Grichuk, this thread would be one page. Every damn thread devolves into this crap.

About the Grichuk signing, it's fine. Not exciting, but if it keeps a few others from getting playing time and allows Hays to heal up, it's fine.

1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

This is now the 3rd time you or Cali have insinuated that posts on the internet are driving decision making or changing outcomes of a major league team.

Now theyre victims of it. I can only hope youre being facetious.

And if this were true, they need to quit their jobs NOW because they aren't capable of making their own decisions.

https://www.si.com/mlb/yankees/onsi/news/randall-grichuk-long-awaited-new-york-yankees-debut-what-expect&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwj8wdug96SUAxUGL1kFHVurNKoQFnoECAUQAg&usg=AOvVaw20Dm2I5LWLEwR3DFp4WjCr

Grichuk is basically just a lesser version of Hays

"Despite the favorable matchup deployments, Grichuk didn’t hit over his scattered playing time. He batted .194 without a home run while striking out 10 times. He worked one walk and had a .212 on-base mark. Grichuk didn’t perform especially well against left-handed pitching last season either, batting .227/.273/.430. He was among the best hitters in MLB against southpaws from 2022-24, however, destroying them at a .317/.367/.573 clip. He connected on 25 homers, 34 doubles and four triples in just under 500 trips against lefties over those three years.

Grichuk hasn’t played center field in three seasons and has been a well below-average hitter against righty pitching. It’s a limited profile but one the Sox feel comfortable carrying on their bench. They lost right fielder Everson Pereira to the injured list last week with a pectoral strain. Jarred Kelenic was selected onto the MLB roster in his stead and is out to a 1-6 start over three games. The lefty-hitting Kelenic and right-handed Austin Hays — a similar player to Grichuk — are dividing right field work."

mlbtraderumors.com

4 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

JR will never personally shell out the money required for extensions to our young core players?

...And you know this ... how? Because it's certainly not based on JR's history of extending young players to buy out a year or two of free agency. You continually post disinformation, over and over. It's not "power and influence". It's the firehose of BS.

Just now, WestEddy said:

...And you know this ... how? Because it's certainly not based on JR's history of extending young players to buy out a year or two of free agency. You continually post disinformation, over and over. It's not "power and influence". It's the firehose of BS.

When did the Sox run bottom three payrolls for three consecutive years?

Proof is in the pudding.

Put up or shut up.

Murakami

both Montgomerys

Cholowsky/#41 pick

Bonemer

Davis Martin

Schultz

Teel

NINE candidates.

5 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

...And you know this ... how? Because it's certainly not based on JR's history of extending young players to buy out a year or two of free agency. You continually post disinformation, over and over. It's not "power and influence". It's the firehose of BS.

You know not everything is a Nazi conspiracy right? People just can disagree and see things differently without it being "disinformation". Calm down.

2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Or we can simply blame him and JR for extending the contract into 2025/26 when cutting bait entirely seemed the most prudent course after the last two seasons.

Do you ever want to take a crack at analyzing even one of your sentences? You're saying that not picking up Robert's option was the better course of action. Why? They didn't pay a penny of it and got two lotto tickets in return. Acuña doesn't seem to be working out, but the thought is to amass a bunch of prospects, work with them, give them playing time. Pereira and Peters look like good gambles. Pauley's an arm to work with.

Seriously, the glum mob will go on for pages over somebody mentioning Mantle and Maris when talking about a HR race, and you spew stuff like this in every post of yours.

12 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

When did the Sox run bottom three payrolls for three consecutive years?

Proof is in the pudding.

Put up or shut up.

Murakami

both Montgomerys

Cholowsky/#41 pick

Bonemer

Davis Martin

Schultz

Teel

NINE candidates.

None of that has anything to do with the question I asked you. This stuff goes on for pages because the 4-5 of you guys keep pulling this garbage. Every string devolves into whining about the Robert trade and making up BS about Reinsdorf NEVER extending players.

Just now, WestEddy said:

None of that has anything to do with the question I asked you. This stuff goes on for pages because the 4-5 of you guys keep pulling this garbage. Every string devolves into whining about the Robert trade and making up BS about Reinsdorf NEVER extending players.

Getz Getz Getz

we have heard for years now why giving Moncada Jimenez Robert and young pitchers long term deals is a mistake...because of Danks, largely

burned once....and Contreras extension after WS

right now there's still a $75 million top contract until that changes...over a $25 million spread from #29

let us know

Sale Rodon Giolito Lopez Cease Crochet all left or were traded FACT

Sale Q Eaton deals/extensions from a generation ago are about as relevant as Albert Belle or Jaime Navarro today

Edited Wednesday at 04:22 PM1 day by caulfield12

43 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Do you ever want to take a crack at analyzing even one of your sentences? You're saying that not picking up Robert's option was the better course of action. Why? They didn't pay a penny of it and got two lotto tickets in return. Acuña doesn't seem to be working out, but the thought is to amass a bunch of prospects, work with them, give them playing time. Pereira and Peters look like good gambles. Pauley's an arm to work with.

Seriously, the glum mob will go on for pages over somebody mentioning Mantle and Maris when talking about a HR race, and you spew stuff like this in every post of yours.

Again, the need to label everyone you disagree with isn't necesary.

2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Again, the need to label everyone you disagree with isn't necesary.

Glum mob?

I have been more optimistic than anyone here except for Autumn Dreamin on the Japanese players.

Teruaki Sato will be an absolute stud but the White Sox are the going to shell out $175-225 million.

They certainly don't give Itoh the first contract for over $100 million...even with Imai's struggles suppressing his value.

I guess advocating for a Yoshida/Benintendi flip is being excessively negative.

The primary mistake has been misjudging Colson's defense based largely on outdated scouting reports and the back issues from seasons past.

Not even you said he was close to a Top 3-5 defender, though.

Edited Wednesday at 07:08 PM1 day by caulfield12