1 hour ago, hi8is said:

Exactly. Pitch selection wasn’t poor but the execution of that pitch was deplorable and warranted the result.

Plus its a rookie pitcher, bases are loaded. Asking him to bury it in the dirt with a runner on 3rd is a tough call 0-2. Hitter on the ropes . Go with the high fastball away.

Edited Wednesday at 05:29 PM2 days by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

1 hour ago, Bill The Boy said:

Thank you, hi8is, that is greatly appreciated. I do realize that I'm going to have a natural tendency to stick up for family, but I also realize that everyone has the right to express themselves freely. Sometimes it's going to be positive, and other times it's going to be more critical, but it all comes from a foundation of caring for all the guys and wanting them to succeed. Sometimes those "jinxed" games just happen, but isn't it great that we've been given a brand new day?!!

Often times people ( especially on the internet ) become keyboard warriors and act as authority figures when in reality they have little actual insight to offer. It’s easier to judge a play while sitting on a couch and reviewing a situation in slow motion.

Some also don’t have actual playing experience too.

Otherwise, those who have played the game tend to see things differently.

Sam, Riku, Mune, and Will are all pros. They’ll all get better from the loss and will continue to grow. That’s what gives hope for the future.

We’re no longer stuck with arrogant flashy show boats like Moncada or deflective putts like Grifol. 😆

Hopefully today we’ll get back on track and will be treated to a surprising debut that can bring even more excitement for the better days this franchise has entered.

Go Sox!

8 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Plus its a rookie pitcher, bases are loaded. Asking him to bury it in the dirt with a runner on 3rd is a tough call 0-2. Hitter on the ropes . Go with the high fastball away.

If the dude can’t throw an 0-2 ball in the dirt with a runner on third, then he shouldn’t be in the show. I really have no problem with the pitch selection and bet that if he’s called on to make that pitch again, he will execute it.

Sometimes the most important lessons come through pain - right?

Just now, hi8is said:

If the dude can’t throw an 0-2 ball in the dirt with a runner on third, then he shouldn’t be in the show. I really have no problem with the pitch selection and bet that if he’s called on to make that pitch again, he will execute it.

Sometimes the most important lessons come through pain - right?

Hes walking a fine line there is my point.And he just walked a guy to load the bases. Throwing an absolute out there like if you cant throw the pitch in the dirt you shouldnt be in the majors is a hot take . If that were truly the case we'd never see wild pitches. There's in the dirt catchable and in the dirt takes a funny bounce or catchers who arent good a blocking those even when they know its coming because its like any other pitch, you can miss the location and it goes to the backstop. Pitchers throw mistake pitches all the time and miss location in zone and out of zone. . Youre asking him to throw it in the dirt but not too much inside or outside so maybe thats why it was so center cut. So many variables there about what the catcher wanted him to do. Maybe there was even some pitcher catcher miscommunication

In that situation you want to minimize the chance for a mistake. Maybe he wasnt even trying to throw it in the dirt.We can assume he was but cant be sure .

He had just executed 2 high fastballs for strikes so Im fairly confident a 3rd one above the zone and away would ve been a better call. It's splitting hairs I know .You execute either pitch properly both are good calls but a sinker right down in the zone youre hoping he tops it into a DP more than youre looking for the K , though you would certainly take either result. So maybe was trying to throw it low enough to get a DP but not too low for a wild pitch . A pitch too much in the dirt could bounce away from the catcher and all 3 runners advance. It's like the next worst situation to grooving an off speed pitch down the middle to speed up his bat. Baseball not easy. 🙂

Edited Wednesday at 06:25 PM2 days by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:

From Sox Machine's game recap:

"Kind of a weird play there, where there's a bunch of chaos and the ball didn't bounce our way," Will Venable said of the play that ended the 10th, before affirming he kept the bunt on with Nishida even after two strikes. "Once you get to two strikes against a guy who's really tough against lefties, that at-bat where we're set up to bunt, go ahead and commit through two strikes there. With that being the skill set that [Nishida] does very well, that was the calculus to go ahead and try to get [pinch runner Luisangel Acuña to third], knowing that you've got some guys behind him."

That was almost Hahn-esque in its ability to spend so many words to say absolutely nothing. He never actually said that he either either told him to bunt, or he did it on its own, and you can read into it however you like.

4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

That was almost Hahn-esque in its ability to spend so many words to say absolutely nothing. He never actually said that he either either told him to bunt, or he did it on its own, and you can read into it however you like.

From a manager that ability is what you want.

3 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

From a manager that ability is what you want.

Which honestly tells me he did it on his own, so Will protected him. No reason to answer like that if he it was on Will.

3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

I am going with the PCA bride. It makes for a better story.

It is amazing how some White Sox fans are still obsessed with the Cubs. The vast majority of Cub fans are indifferent to the White Sox and totally ignore them.

4 minutes ago, Thesieve300 said:

It is amazing how some White Sox fans are still obsessed with the Cubs. The vast majority of Cub fans are indifferent to the White Sox and totally ignore them.

Yet here you are

2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

For the record, Soxtalk is a pretty solid spot, but it is a message board, and the absolute lowest common denominator of a sports community is the instant reactions to game situations, which is what happens in any game thread. Game threads are always brutal, it's just a matter of how bad. The discussions that take place outside of the game threads are markedly deeper and more intelligent. I do just want to say, don't internalize some of the crap that gets said in the moment. That said, welcome to the group!

Thank you, Southsider! It's all good. I'm actually about the world's worst when it comes to running my mouth before my brain has a chance to intervene! And I'm thoroughly enjoying keeping up with this great forum!

10 minutes ago, Thesieve300 said:

It is amazing how some White Sox fans are still obsessed with the Cubs. The vast majority of Cub fans are indifferent to the White Sox and totally ignore them.

I agree but that's only because i don't live in Chicago. I understand it from that perspective. It was a bit jarring to wake up see in this thread celebrations about the cubs loss last night instead of ours. But again, I get it.

12 minutes ago, Thesieve300 said:

It is amazing how some White Sox fans are still obsessed with the Cubs. The vast majority of Cub fans are indifferent to the White Sox and totally ignore them.

Yes, and you clearly care far too little to type the post you just typed.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: every cross-town rival in every sport across the world "cares about" the team across town. It would be bizarre if they didn't. They share the same city and the same potential fanbase. The main difference I've detected in the fanbases in Chicago is that Sox fans treat it like a normal rivalry, and Cub fans have developed this weird, passive-aggressive coping mechanism where they spend their entire lives screeching about how little they care.

24 minutes ago, Thesieve300 said:

It is amazing how some White Sox fans are still obsessed with the Cubs. The vast majority of Cub fans are indifferent to the White Sox and totally ignore them.

Nothing like making a new account to tell people exactly how much you don't care, to demonstrate exactly how much you don't care.