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Trade Ideas/Rumors/Proposals Thread

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Back to the youth/defense/run prevention model of the Brewers...

That's basically their version of Moneyball 2020's, that speed and defense is much more affordable than paying through the teeth for peak offensive production at corner spots.

That taking money earmarked for Mune might better be invested across Vargas Colson and even Peters (as the best defender and fastest player on the team...unless you think it's Baldwin or Actually.)

"Over the last decade, Milwaukee’s organizational philosophy has been straightforward: build around run prevention. The Brewers prioritize strong defense and pitching, then rely on a lineup that does just enough offensively to outscore opponents. That formula has helped them remain one of baseball’s most consistent contenders despite operating with a bottom-third payroll.

Both Pratt and Lara fit that profile perfectly. Pratt is a 2024 Minor League Gold Glove winner whose defense earns 60 grades for both fielding and arm strength from MLB Pipeline. Pipeline is even higher on Lara, giving him a 70 grade for his defense and 60 grades for both his arm and speed. Both players project as significantly above-average fielders in the major leagues and have been consistently great defenders in the minor leagues. Furthermore, while no prospect is a sure thing, defensive skills tend to be more stable and predictable than offensive production — something that most likely gives the Brewers a little more confidence in offering Lara and Pratt their extensions."

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A full 12 members of the Brewers are at sprint speeds between 27.9 and 30!!!

Of course, the White Sox play numerous summer games at GRF where balls fly out and the starting rotation isn't exactly their greatest strength ATM.

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Antonacci and Acuna have been among the worst defenders in terms of OAA…despite being among the fastest players on the team.

While Peters, Colson, Chase, Braden and even Jacob Gonzalez have been among the best.

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White Sox not paired with any of the catching names yet, but quite a few of the pitchers.

Detmers, Soriano, Foster Griffin, Robbie Ray, Clay Holmes

No Casey Mize, and Bleday would have been a good pickup, although they’re obviously happier with Grichuk than Hays

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4 hours ago, hi8is said:

What the f*** are you talking about?

He thinks we should consider trading Murakami for pitching

3 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Everything’s all great vibes for now, but it’s still a JR organization.

Feels like we’re just jumping over this still lengthy transition period to the time when there’s a new stadium and a blank checkbook like the Phillies or Padres.

We already know Meidroth and Antonacci likely can’t stay together in the lineup, and future lineup space for Carlson Thome Prosek and Weingartner could be limited as well.

There’s definitely a legit case to be made for splitting the theoretical Mune extension $$$ two or three ways between Vargas Colson and Roch.

Heck, we might be less than another season away from saying the same about Peters, although that’s certainly much less of a priority.

We have zero payroll commitments and a team of cost controllable player. Stop with this insanity. And we have five more years of control of Peters…there is zero reason to worry about extending him.

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3 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Everything’s all great vibes for now, but it’s still a JR organization.

Feels like we’re just jumping over this still lengthy transition period to the time when there’s a new stadium and a blank checkbook like the Phillies or Padres.

We already know Meidroth and Antonacci likely can’t stay together in the lineup, and future lineup space for Carlson Thome Prosek and Weingartner could be limited as well.

There’s definitely a legit case to be made for splitting the theoretical Mune extension $$$ two or three ways between Vargas Colson and Roch.

Heck, we might be less than another season away from saying the same about Peters, although that’s certainly much less of a priority.

Ok… now it’s your turn for the same question even though I hadn’t asked you before.

5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

He thinks we should consider trading Murakami for pitching

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3 minutes ago, hi8is said:

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Exactly.

Let’s get this thread back on track.

The Sox can’t roster all three of Grichuk, Hays, & Pereira. Everson is the only one controllable beyond this year and who can play CF…ideally you keep him so you don’t have to find someone to fill this role next year. That means you got to move one of Hays or Grichuk and it would be hard to move the latter after what he’s done.

Both Austin & Pereira are at AAA in rehab stints. I think there is a real possibility that we call up Hays before the Astros series and try to showcase him a bit. We aren’t going to get a ton, but RH bats are in demand right now and he was a $6M signing this past offseason with a strong track against LHP. Maybe he nets you something that can help offset the cost of a rental catcher.

Meanwhile, Everson can extend his rehab assignment through the trade deadline. I think they keep him down and use this as an opportunity to get him regular playing time while they work through the major league roster crunch. He comes up post deadline and returns to his previous role.

25 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Let’s get this thread back on track.

The Sox can’t roster all three of Grichuk, Hays, & Pereira. Everson is the only one controllable beyond this year and who can play CF…ideally you keep him so you don’t have to find someone to fill this role next year. That means you got to move one of Hays or Grichuk and it would be hard to move the latter after what he’s done.

Both Austin & Pereira are at AAA in rehab stints. I think there is a real possibility that we call up Hays before the Astros series and try to showcase him a bit. We aren’t going to get a ton, but RH bats are in demand right now and he was a $6M signing this past offseason with a strong track against LHP. Maybe he nets you something that can help offset the cost of a rental catcher.

Meanwhile, Everson can extend his rehab assignment through the trade deadline. I think they keep him down and use this as an opportunity to get him regular playing time while they work through the major league roster crunch. He comes up post deadline and returns to his previous role.

Sounds like a plan to me, Perez down, Hays up and Pereira stays on rehab for now.

13 hours ago, GreenSox said:

Well in 2016, Hahn thought we had a window, and made trades. There was no window, but his trades caused us to rebuild.
20/21 didn't last because the team had no depth and the farm was terrible once the team got good. I remember reading "The farm system is #29, but for good reason." Well the good teams don't lost their farms when the teams get good. Anderson and Eloy get sour (and the clowns in the FO don't bring back their best pitcher) and there's no depth to help.
We FINALLY have a good MLB team AND Farm. Nurture it, grow it, get it better; don't squander it.
The AL will be better next year. But so will the Sox.

Nothing is promised. There may not be an AL or NL next year.

In 1983, a 22 year old Cal Ripken was in his second full season, put up an 8.2 WAR and the Orioles won the World Series. He made 18 straight All-Star appearances with Baltimore after 1983, and he never made it to another World Series.

In 2016, the Cubs won the World Series with a core of:

Kris Bryant - 24

Anthony Rizzo - 26

Addison Russell - 22

Javier Baez - 23

They also had Kyle Schwarber, Willson Contreras and Ian Happ waiting in the wings.

As we know, they never got back.


Rentals will come cheaper than players with control. They should be able to acquire help without giving up high-end capital.

I've said the last few months, I don't want them going after rentals, they're a year "early" and winning the division/playoff success is just house money. I've changed my perspective on that after watching more of the season play out. The AL is BAD. The only team that actually scares me is a healthy Yankees team, and I don't know if we'll even see a healthy Yankees team in 2026. There is a VERY real world where the Sox earn a first round bye in the playoffs. If that happens, the path to the World Series isn't crazy at all.

I'm not advocating for Getz to push all his chips in the middle of the table, pillage the farm system in order to get new bodies on the team for 3 months. But standing pat, being overly conservative isn't the play either. Sometimes the best pitch to hit is the first one. You can wait, but that pitch may never come.

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