20 hours ago20 hr 3 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said:Gross on many levels. Overpaying for a rental would be the dumbest thing we can do. That's the sort of thing Hahn would do or KW and would end up gutting the upper minors just at a time when we needed reinforcements from the Farm.We'd get a comp pick when he leaves, but that's hardly enough carrot.Not to mention watching our young guys play for the tigers (or, even worse, the Twins). Skubal wasn’t even particularly good in his start Sox have close to a 0% success rate on these type of trades. Be smart about it
20 hours ago20 hr https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/article/5-under-the-radar-mlb-trade-targets-from-reid-detmers-to-gavin-sheets-212312817.htmlBender Sheets Detmers Ed.Rodriguez
20 hours ago20 hr 13 minutes ago, GreenSox said:Not to mention watching our young guys play for the tigers (or, even worse, the Twins). Skubal wasn’t even particularly good in his start Sox have close to a 0% success rate on these type of trades. Be smart about it"Most importantly, Skubal looked more or less like his world-beating self. He threw 19 pitches at 98 mph or harder. His fastball velocity was actually up more than 1 mph on his pre-injury season average (96.6 vs. 97.8). He induced five whiffs on his trademark changeup and three more on his slider. The command was more sufficient than elite, understandable given the context. All that rust will shake off in time."They just don't have the pieces that they're willing to part with like the Dodgers do...or Brewers, but that type of short term move not exactly in their DNA.
20 hours ago20 hr Author 5 hours ago, GreenSox said:Gonzalez’ defense at first is also very good. I would still dump Benintendi and let Gonzalez and Mune play first/DH; but that won’t happen. And Baldwin will probably send Grichuk away, so I suppose they need to keep one veteran around. And give the guy a chance on his offense.But if the Sox are intent on trading Gonzalez, that Law hype article can only help his value.I’d still call the Angels on Urena…they make a lot of ?able trades, so let’s partake of that.I like Urena. Good call.
19 hours ago19 hr This is outside the box and wouldn’t help us all that much this year, but what about a Caleb Bonemer for Ryan Sloan trade? I’ll admit I stole this idea from somewhere (maybe even here!), but it immediately piqued my curiosity. Who would say no…the Mariners or the Sox? How would people feel about trading a kid with the offensive ceiling of Bonemer?
19 hours ago19 hr 4 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said:Gross on many levels. Overpaying for a rental would be the dumbest thing we can do. That's the sort of thing Hahn would do or KW and would end up gutting the upper minors just at a time when we needed reinforcements from the Farm.We'd get a comp pick when he leaves, but that's hardly enough carrot.Really? Were acting like the worst thing KW did was his trades for talent? Not his never using money in the draft?Who did Hahn trade for that was a top SP? Top hitter? Hahn was what you all loved. Going after cheap, marginal positions.Do the dodgers ever trade for great talent? Seems they do well.
19 hours ago19 hr The opportunity to trade Meidroth for a 3 WAR starting pitcher that is under control arises. Do you make the trade?
19 hours ago19 hr 8 minutes ago, ron883 said:The opportunity to trade Meidroth for a 3 WAR starting pitcher that is under control arises. Do you make the trade?It would be tough to say no to that given that Antonacci and probably Cholowsky are both viable options at 2B for the long term.I guess it depends on how much control the SP has given that Meidroth looks like a 2.5 WAR guy himself and maybe a bit more and is also controlled for 5 more years.
18 hours ago18 hr 6 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said:I just don't want Gonzo to turn into Semien 2.0 where we give up a guy too early thinking his development is over and we have others anyways.Here's another thing to keep in mind. The Crochet trade broke the Red Sox.Remember the big 3 who the Red Sox wouldn't give up Kristian Campbell, Roman Anthony and Marcelo Mayer ? Campbell tanked almost as soon as they extended him with a modest 8 years /$60M. He can't play defense. Anthony showed some signs of life but so far isn't even on par with Meidroth. Mayer is also struggling to find consistency.To add injury to insult Crochet pitched poorly and has missed time this year and is still out with left (throwing arm) shoulder imflammation after his phenomenal 1st year with the Red Sox. Some of the prospects can recover but not looking good currently.Crochets comments while injured also stirred up controversy. It's almost like he never left the White Sox of old for those who liked to stir the hornest's nest about medical mismanagement.
18 hours ago18 hr 18 minutes ago, ron883 said:The opportunity to trade Meidroth for a 3 WAR starting pitcher that is under control arises. Do you make the trade?No you don't rip the heart out of a team who is running on a lot of talent yes ,but talent with heart. You have to be very careful when what they have right now is intangible and messing with it then becomes tangible and shows up as losses. The French call it "je ne c'est quoi" which literally translates to "I don't know what ". In English, it is used to describe a pleasing, special quality about someone or something that makes them attractive or distinct, but is impossible to easily define or put into words.
18 hours ago18 hr 13 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:It would be tough to say no to that given that Antonacci and probably Cholowsky are both viable options at 2B for the long term.I guess it depends on how much control the SP has given that Meidroth looks like a 2.5 WAR guy himself and maybe a bit more and is also controlled for 5 more years.Plus we have Gonzalez who could fill in at 2B now. Bonemer is relatively close and has a big offensive ceiling. Then you have Baldwin take Sam's spot in LF next season if we want to move him back to 2B.Only downside to me is our lack of right handed hitting currently and Meidroth seems popular in the clubhouse. I'd listen to any potential Meidroth offers if I was Getz.
18 hours ago18 hr 43 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:This is outside the box and wouldn’t help us all that much this year, but what about a Caleb Bonemer for Ryan Sloan trade? I’ll admit I stole this idea from somewhere (maybe even here!), but it immediately piqued my curiosity. Who would say no…the Mariners or the Sox? How would people feel about trading a kid with the offensive ceiling of Bonemer?We discussed this on the FutureSox podcast. I'd make the trade in a heartbeat.
18 hours ago18 hr 35 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:Here's another thing to keep in mind. The Crochet trade broke the Red Sox.Remember the big 3 who the Red Sox wouldn't give up Kristian Campbell, Roman Anthony and Marcelo Mayer ?Campbell tanked almost as soon as they extended him with a modest 8 years /$60M. He can't play defense. Anthony showed some signs of life but so far isn't even on par with Meidroth. Mayer is also struggling to find consistency.To add injury to insult Crochet pitched poorly and has missed time this year and is still out with left (throwing arm) shoulder imflammation after his phenomenal 1st year with the Red Sox. Some of the prospects can recover but not looking good currently.Crochets comments while injured also stirred up controversy. It's almost like he never left the White Sox of old for those who liked to stir the hornest's nest about medical mismanagement.Anthony has been hurt for most of the season.He's a Top 15-20 mlb talent still, despite the injury...and also with youth in his favor.Harrison and Hamilton/Durbin was even worse. Edited 18 hours ago18 hr by caulfield12
18 hours ago18 hr 44 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:This is outside the box and wouldn’t help us all that much this year, but what about a Caleb Bonemer for Ryan Sloan trade? I’ll admit I stole this idea from somewhere (maybe even here!), but it immediately piqued my curiosity. Who would say no…the Mariners or the Sox? How would people feel about trading a kid with the offensive ceiling of Bonemer?If you are going to trade Bonemer I'd look at the Red Sox young MLB pitchers like Payton Tolle , Connelly EarlyChapman will be their gun for hire. But 30 year old Garrett Whitlock could be had for relatively little. It would take a bit more to pry away Tolle or Early. Bonemer and.... ? Schultz ? McDougal ? Sandlin ? Hagen Smith ?If you're going to trade Bonemer it might as well be for immediate + future help.Just for immediate help Sonny Gray is also on the Red Sox and having a very good year and is a rental with a costly option. He's 36 and you worry that a good 1st half will not translate to a good 2nd half . He also has a strange contract where the cardinals are paying a lot and Boston then restructured the buyout to pay him less in 2026 but the buyout is $10M. It used to be $5M deferred for $1M per year for 5 years. Edited 18 hours ago18 hr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
18 hours ago18 hr It’s fun to talk about, but how many top prospect for top prospect 1 for 1 deals where both guys have no service time have ever happened?
18 hours ago18 hr https://www.mlb.com/news/prospect-trade-hauls-all-time-rankings&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiN9rq-3oqVAxXt48kDHagxG5IQFnoECAgQAg&usg=AOvVaw2NGY7eKCyS0i7-mQBXEwfOhttps://www.mlb.com/news/highest-ranked-prospects-ever-tradedMoncada of course comes up... Edited 18 hours ago18 hr by caulfield12
18 hours ago18 hr 7 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:If you are going to trade Bonemer I'd look at the Red Sox young MLB pitchers like Payton Tolle , Connelly EarlyChapman will be their gun for hire. But 30 year old Garrett Whitlock could be had for relatively little. It would take a bit more to pry away Tolle or Early. Bonemer and.... ? Schultz ? McDougal ? Sandlin ? Hagen Smith ?If you're going to trade Bonemer it might as well be for immediate + future help.Breslow would be tarred and feathered for trading even more talent to get Sandlin back...
18 hours ago18 hr 19 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:We discussed this on the FutureSox podcast. I'd make the trade in a heartbeat.I did watch the first 30 minutes of your latest podcast, so I may have gotten it from there. Either way, I’ve been a huge Sloan fan for a while now and kind of lean that way. Just always scary trading a positional prospect the caliber of Bonemer.
18 hours ago18 hr https://sports.mynorthwest.com/mlb/seattle-mariners/why-baseball-america-ranks-ryan-sloan-as-seattle-mariners-top-pitching-prospectSeattle wouldn't make that trade...even with Anderson's presence.Especially if they can dump Luis Castillo.Proximity to the majors means more to the Mariners right now as well.Bonemer lacks a clear secondary position on the infield where he can be projected at average defensively.A huge aspect of Mariners' recent success has revolved around pitching, speed and defense.
17 hours ago17 hr 12 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:Breslow would be tarred and feathered for trading even more talent to get Sandlin back...Just spitballing here throwing out names for trade and names to trade if you're adding Bonemer to the mix. I don't care what happens to Breslow. He's going to be a busy guy at the deadline.
17 hours ago17 hr 16 minutes ago, bmags said:Really? Were acting like the worst thing KW did was his trades for talent? Not his never using money in the draft?Who did Hahn trade for that was a top SP? Top hitter? Hahn was what you all loved. Going after cheap, marginal positions.Do the dodgers ever trade for great talent? Seems they do well.So we trade Bonemer to rent Skubal for 2 months; still a long shot to win WS or pennant. Then say Colson gets hurt next season and Peters turns into a fluke. Where are we? When the Sox can draft and develop like the Dodgers, then we can make those sorts of trades (we’re better at than we were, but nowhere near Dodger level; Sox are average). Need a steady stream of young players in order to win. Trade them away without developing new ones = Sox 2010-2025.Williams and moreso Hahn used most of our best prospects for 2nd and 3rd tier talent that performed like 3rd and 4th tier talent. The Sox had so few good prospects back then that the cost was immense.
17 hours ago17 hr 1 hour ago, joejoesox said:not sure I agree with Keith law, at least not yetIt's pretty much a waste of time to show stats from such a small sample size. We've been spoiled because it seems like every major position player prospect that's come up has produced almost immediately. He's had his moments so far. He's been facing a lot of good pitching and the Yankees are throwing 2 LHP and Gerritt Cole who Bonemer lit up while Cole was rehabbing and then Cole hit him with a pitch likely on purpose. I hope we kick Cole's ass.
17 hours ago17 hr 10 minutes ago, GreenSox said:So we trade Bonemer to rent Skubal for 2 months; still a long shot to win WS or pennant. Then say Colson gets hurt next season and Peters turns into a fluke. Where are we? When the Sox can draft and develop like the Dodgers, then we can make those sorts of trades (we’re better at than we were, but nowhere near Dodger level; Sox are average). Need a steady stream of young players in order to win. Trade them away without developing new ones = Sox 2010-2025.Williams and moreso Hahn used most of our best prospects for 2nd and 3rd tier talent that performed like 3rd and 4th tier talent. The Sox had so few good prospects back then that the cost was immense.When the Sox actually start having some prospects come from the International Latin America players. Maybe then but until then with the possibility of Mune leaving you can't go crazy chasing dreams. I want them to make the playoffs because its important but not stupid important.
7 hours ago7 hr https://nypost.com/2026/06/15/opinion/giants-pride-controversy-tolerance-but-not-for-christians/You can basically forget trading for Roupp.
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