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Castillo to Sox for Dominguez, Boston Smith, Nolan Jones per Passan

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1 minute ago, hi8is said:

And yet he recently held the Indians to 1ER in 6IP

They are quite bad at scoring.

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    Look at Ray Ray Run

    How is castillo worth anything at his full contract. Guys got negative value. Just weird. He's washed

  • Chicago White Sox
    Chicago White Sox

    If you took out Boston Smith, maybe the trade would make some sense. I can’t fathom how taking on a worse contract than the one we gave up required us to give up a legitimate prospect. I don’t even

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Wouldn’t be shocked if Castillo is held back until the Cleveland series and we get some of our other starters an extra day of rest.

Just now, hi8is said:

Wouldn’t be shocked if Castillo is held back until the Cleveland series and we get some of our other starters an extra day of rest.

Martin and Burke are scheduled to pitch in Fenway along with Fedde. He most likely takes Schultz's spot in the rotation and starts in the first game against Cleveland.

41 minutes ago, tray said:

dumbazz

lol…being called a dumbass by someone who doesn’t understand what the words “regression” & “sustainable” mean is truly something.

43 minutes ago, Rounding_Third said:

Castillo has been really good for many years. It's hard to believe that he's lost it all so quickly. A change of scenery could just be what he needs.

Could is the key word there. This deal is banking on it.

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

lol…being called a dumbass by someone who doesn’t understand what the words “regression” & “sustainable” mean is truly something.

Not to mention that Schweitzer has mostly pitched in mop up duty while we're up 5-6 runs. It's great nothing bad happened, but those innings are not the same as pitching with a 1 or 2 run lead.

18 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

"On This Day in Sports History: July 31, 2009, Jake Peavy Was Traded After Cementing Himself as One of the Greatest Pitchers in Padres History. The Padres traded 2007 NL Cy Young Award winner Jake Peavy to the White Sox in exchange for Aaron Poreda, Clayton Richard, Adam Russell, and minor leaguer Dexter Carter."

C.Richard had a longer career than many expected...but a nothing burger overall in terms of prospect cost, except wasting picks on Poreda and Ring.

Let us never forget the Jakemeister rejecting the initial trade to the Sox before caving to the South Side on the second attempt.

44 minutes ago, Colome's Hat said:

His second to last start was excellent

Which start are you referring to?

Is this the biggest annual salary Sox will have ever paid (ie the 25M next year) for a player in franchise history?

23 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Yeah, but we're not seeing a decrease in velocity or anything that drastic in pitch shapes. He's also not walking more guys. It's simply that guys aren't swinging at his slider anymore.

His walk rate is currently higher than any of his other seasons. Currently walking 2.9/9 where it was 2.6, 2.4 and 2.3 the last 3 seasons. k rate is lower but not by much which I guess is good, striking out almost 8 batters per nine innings. The home run rate (1.4/9) and hit rate (9.7/9!) are what alarms me the most. Unless he turns things around we’re going to see a lot of traffic on the bases when he takes the mound Hopefully Getz isn’t finished with acquiring pitchers

Stats from baseball reference.

Edited by AntMan26

45 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Do you seriously believe that as long as Jerry is around we will seriously have a chance at signing a free agent ace?

I think they’re banking on tweeting Castillo and getting him back to number 2 form for this year and next whereas his contract looks like a deal.

Until Ishbia takes over, we will likely not be signing number 1 types. As sad as it is.

He’s hasn’t been a #2 starter for several years now. People look at his ERA and scream “ace” and completely ignore the SafeCo effect. His ERA at home was 2.95 the last three years vs. 4.16 in the road. That’s a significant split and a major advantage he loses out on moving forward.

27 minutes ago, sin city sox fan said:

My first impression of this trade is not to do cartwheels. However, Getz and this staff have picked up some great reclamation projects that have worked out so Im hoping they've seen something with Castillo that they can address and turn him into a quality starter again.

Also, $25 million may not be a huge salary next year. Assuming a deal gets done, there will definitely be a salary floor. Teams like the Dodgers and the Yankees will have to trim payroll but at least 8-10 teams will probably have to add 30-50 million in payroll to reach the floor. As a result, you'll see some contracts that will look worse than this.

In summary, I'll wait to grade this deal but im giving our staff the benefit of the doubt.....they've earned that.

there won't be a cap, meaning there probably won't be a floor either. the players union has made it abundantly clear that a cap is dead in the water

51 minutes ago, hi8is said:

The Hall of Fame List is golden. I’m telling you.

I’m starting to consider. I can’t comprehend how any legitimate Sox fan who has endured the reign of Jerry Reinsdorf would be upset when a savior owner finally arrives. Just mind boggling stupid and not worthy of conversion at that point.

20 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

lol…being called a dumbass by someone who doesn’t understand what the words “regression” & “sustainable” mean is truly something.

He probably still believes Tristan Peters is more “first half 2026 player” than “bench at best/Quad-A player” haha

38 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Hello, reason.

Need a bat to help out our lineup of fucking fairies.

46 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said:

What’s our payroll? It’s been barely above minimum wage until Mune

We’re paying him $24M next year…he’s locked in for a spot in the rotation and it certainly limits how much we’ll spend in that area.

I am very anti-pitcher in the sense that I'm never into heavy investment into pitchers as they tend to be unreliable due to injury. HOWEVER I will also mention that pitchers do not reliably hit the aging wall the way position players do. So I think it is perfectly logical to see this season's dip by Castillo and fear the worst, but pitchers are also more apt to bounce back to career norms in their mid 30s than hitters are.

I don't like it but at least it's not one of the top prospects and it's a way better option than that rumor about Peralta. The path to it being a worthwhile trade isn't such an unlikely outcome. Castillo's underlying metrics are pretty much the same as they have been, seems unlikely he's cooked. Could just as easily return to form. Meanwhile, maybe Smith's bat stalls out and he can't find a position to play.

Would've rather done nothing, but meh.

6 minutes ago, ron883 said:

Need a bat to help out our lineup of fucking fairies.

I really don’t think they’ve written off bringing in a centerfielder and we know they are actively looking for a catcher.

More help is on the way!

The central battle for this year may just be who makes the best moves between the Sox, Indians, and Twins.

FUCKING

GO

SOX

GO!!!!

26 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Not to mention that Schweitzer has mostly pitched in mop up duty while we're up 5-6 runs. It's great nothing bad happened, but those innings are not the same as pitching with a 1 or 2 run lead.

Exactly. And don’t get me wrong, I love that he pounds the strike zone, but without generating some whiffs that success won’t last forever. He could very well get better with time…just not sure I want to bank on that down the stretch if a higher impact arm is an option.

A lot of Castillo love in this Locked of Mariners podcast going over the trade:

I’m only about 20% into it so they may start dumping on him but so far they’re just gushing.

29 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Which start are you referring to?

July 21

7 ip. 3ER. 4 hits

Mariners didn't score for him. But we would have bitten your arm off for this kind of start against the Yankees.

7 minutes ago, nrockway said:

I don't like it but at least it's not one of the top prospects and it's a way better option than that rumor about Peralta. The path to it being a worthwhile trade isn't such an unlikely outcome. Castillo's underlying metrics are pretty much the same as they have been, seems unlikely he's cooked. Could just as easily return to form. Meanwhile, maybe Smith's bat stalls out and he can't find a position to play.

Would've rather done nothing, but meh.

“Castillo’s value in the trade market was being suppressed by his race.”

At least you didn’t stoop to that nonsense.

Just now, hi8is said:

“Castillo’s value in the trade market was being suppressed by his race.”

At least you didn’t stoop to that nonsense.

You're a fucking loser. Obsessed.

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Is Boston Smith a poor man’s Prosek, or a real Prosek?

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