Just now, hi8is said:

Highly doubtful considering one of the speculated reasons Castillo has struggled this year is that he was in that position with the M’s already.

Just clarifying I meant that Noah and Fedde might share that rotation spot.

5 minutes ago, mmmmmbeeer said:

Raked over the coals?

We gave up a no name OF, a AA guy who was on no one’s radar before this season, and an MLB closer we’re paying $10M to no longer pitch in any high leverage situation. In return we get a 33yo SP with a solid history.

Castillo allowed 7er twice in April and 5er in a recent start against the Dodgers. That’ll hurt ann ERA. Outside of that, he hasn’t given up more than 4er in a start all season. He’s had 3QS in June and July, with another 2QS where he was yanked after 5 2/3.

Getz wasn’t raked over the coals. None of us should give a s%*# about money. The only drawback is Smith, an unproven guy in AA who isn’t doing a damn thing for us to help win games this season.

He's struck out 13 guys in July and given up 7 home runs.

36 minutes ago, tray said:

Ishbia ...fvk that guy. Sick of hearing his name.

You are a fucking clown…go Stan for Jerry Reinsdorf some more you dolt

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2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

What make/model?

Did you get a discount from the Sox adjacent scouting department...or zero interest financing at least?

Nothing special just a Wrangler Rubicon X!

😂🤪

I will stick to the White Sox took on payroll in lieu of giving up a big prospect. That is still a plus vs old white Sox. I’d be more pissed if they dealt Carlson for Detmers.

I do think we may see them go get Mason Miller. I still think that is the splash move Getz makes…

I do think they will acquire Adley to play catcher as long as his injury isn’t serious.

11 minutes ago, wegner said:

I just think MLB hitters will be more prone to layoff his stuff causing more walks. Just not sure this is the time to call him up.

I can respect that but I can also see him throwing filth again and be excited to dream on it being very effective while also boosting the kids confidence.

It’s weird to be gnashing teeth at this…at this point. Now if we get to the deadline and this is our only move, yeah okay probably deserving of some angst.

2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

He's struck out 13 guys in July and given up 7 home runs.

Yeah well it’s August now baby! Time to turn over a new leaf!

37 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

The overreactions both on here and Twitter are insane and I am the king of overreactions here.

The Sox gave up nothing in this trade besides Smith. The vast majority of this fanbase wanted Dominguez gone for awhile now. Castillo isn’t what he once was, but he clearly fills a need here and sending Dominguez’s contact the other way evens out the money a bit.

They still need another starter. But I think the people saying the Sox got fleeced are crazy.

This is your #3 SP for next year most likely. Let that cook for a minute and see if you still feel people are overreacting.

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

This is your #3 SP for next year most likely. Let that cook for a minute and see if you still feel people are overreacting.

FWIW, the projection models still think he's a 4 ERA/4 FIP guy. That's fine for a 3rd starter. I do wonder how those projections might change when he no longer pitches in Seattle tho.

Not a bad deal dumping worthless SD in deal is a win

11 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

A) Because we aren't.

B) Because JR is still running the show.

Look it would be nice if you are right but the last time the Sox absolutely positively went after one of the best and got him was when they signed Albert Belle, who produced terrific numbers.

That was in 1997...a long time ago.

The Sox simply don't operate in the way you, me and other fans would wish them to.

You’re comparing apples to oranges - free agency to trade market. We have seen the Sox pick up the number 1 trade target in the deadline a few times and we have watched them bring in multiple pieces at a deadline before.

I actually think it is foolish to think they aren’t talking about bringing on some heavy guys still and flirting with the idea of including Schultz to do it.

6 minutes ago, Jake said:

Just clarifying I meant that Noah and Fedde might share that rotation spot.

I suppose it’s something they could try since both of those cats have seemed to respond well to coming out as bulk guys.

13 minutes ago, wegner said:

Thought experiment....who could the Sox have gotten packaging Boston Smith and Jacob Gonzalez?

There are lots of permutations and combinations opportunity costs for the overzealous nepo chase

37 minutes ago, Rounding_Third said:

And yet he's made it work all season.

In 22 innings…it’s not sustainable bro.

9 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

The “it’s not our money” is a poor excuse to defend a trade. This dude is one of your five SPs next year. Ignore all the other younger, more productive arms that will be available this offseason that we could have used this money on…we just settled on Castillo being that guy because we wanted the smallest of upgrades for the post season.

I get the frustration and maybe that changes in the next 24 hours but like I've been saying history shows the Sox do not go for the jugular and try to acquire the very best available. That's simply not how they operate, always looking for discounts, retreads, guys hoping to catch lightening in a bottle. That usually doesn't work very often, Esteban Loazia non-withstanding.

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

In 22 innings…it’s not sustainable bro.

dumbazz

Castillo has been really good for many years. It's hard to believe that he's lost it all so quickly. A change of scenery could just be what he needs.

15 minutes ago, mmmmmbeeer said:

Raked over the coals?

We gave up a no name OF, a AA guy who was on no one’s radar before this season, and an MLB closer we’re paying $10M to no longer pitch in any high leverage situation. In return we get a 33yo SP with a solid history.

Castillo allowed 7er twice in April and 5er in a recent start against the Dodgers. That’ll hurt ann ERA. Outside of that, he hasn’t given up more than 4er in a start all season. He’s had 3QS in June and July, with another 2QS where he was yanked after 5 2/3.

Getz wasn’t raked over the coals. None of us should give a s%*# about money. The only drawback is Smith, an unproven guy in AA who isn’t doing a damn thing for us to help win games this season.

His second to last start was excellent

39 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said:

But again, the "risk" is that Jerry or the org as a whole has to pay him next year too. That's it. We aren't giving up top projected talent.

And he's had a consistent career of being aces with this year being a decided down year. There are countless players that have down year in the middle of a strong career. Hell, we tried to run Konerko out of town at one point.

I would rather take on the risk of this year and next year's contract if it only means money. Yes, I'm assuming Ishbia is making more financial decisions here and it isn't all how Jerry has always worked, but one of these moves has to signal the transition to taking a risk on contracts rather than selling all of our prospects.

He hasn’t been a legit TOR starter since like 2022.

13 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

This is the most confusing part, if the peralta thing is real.

Peralta is better than castillo, and owed like 4 million. Framework of trade was around Wolkow and Smith. Values are no where near similar.

That wasn’t deemed enough for Peralta

I’ll be honest…I’d have been way more mad if we dealt Bonemer or Carlson for Detmers for this deal.

41 minutes ago, white sox 80 said:

He will be the next owner. Yeah fu-k the guy you probably don’t even know.

He’s an evil private equity guy who hates ingress/egress and therefore tray hates him!

1 hour ago, SoxAce said:

Basically Boston Smith for Castillo. The other two do not matter. I liked Boston Smith but unless Castillo's stuff has severely declined, I don't mind this.

Interesting take and one that takes me off the ledge

Just now, fathom said:

That wasn’t deemed enough for Peralta

The price of every starter has been high. Even Dean Kremer got a legit prospect in return. Maybe I'll feel better once some of the other guys get dealt and those deals look like overpays too.