1 hour ago, Falstaff said:

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The appropriate fan grievance time for a traded player is 48 to 72 hours of shock, mourning, and venting online, followed by a transition to acceptance by their first game back.

Stages of Fan Grievance

• The Initial 24 Hours: Shock, anger at the front office, and emotional social media posts.

• Day 2 to 3: Acceptance of the business side of sports, wishing the player well, or analyzing the return package.

• The Return Date: Polite applause or a standing ovation when the former player plays against their old team.

Some people will cry about a prospect for a long time. I just get pissed for a bit and move on because that’s all you can do, the trade is done

2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

In zone contact which they think will be exploited eventually

That and no one is sure if he has a defensive position. His valuation is completely different as a catcher vs a left fielder, vs a DH. Though observing the change in tone towards his skill set now that he has been trade is always entertaining. Now people can be honest about his limitations.

1 hour ago, Falstaff said:

This could all be for 2027 or even 2028 but I curious to see where Sox fans are projecting future lineups.

I think Bonemer, who just hit his 31st homer, is closer to the big leagues than Smith, what do you think Caleb's future role is with the White Sox?

If the Sox didn't trade Smith what position do you think he would play?

The overlap of their issues is very interesting.

43 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

Some people will cry about a prospect for a long time. I just get pissed for a bit and move on because that’s all you can do, the trade is done

I understand your perspective and know it's the right one to have but I still get pissed when I hear the name Jake Eder.....and I was very upset when they traded our future long term RF when Steele Walker was sent to Texas. 😎

Castillo is teetering on the brink. Pitching well once every 4 starts might get a guy released depending on the circumstances. My opinion is they could have made the trade with a lesser prospect. BTW Smith is still crushing

it.

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1 minute ago, zisk said:

Castillo is teetering on the brink. Pitching well once every 4 starts might get a guy released depending on the circumstances.

Yeah they’re not eating that contract. I did say when they acquired him that it wouldn’t shock me if we start seeing “DFA Castillo” threads starting around May of next year.

18 minutes ago, zisk said:

Castillo is teetering on the brink. Pitching well once every 4 starts might get a guy released depending on the circumstances. My opinion is they could have made the trade with a lesser prospect. BTW Smith is still crushing

it.

Dominguez for Castillo was the trade. Seattle had been trying to dump Castillo for months. What is Getz trading for pitchers with 5+ERAs and sub .600 OPS for anyway? Getz really needs an experienced assistant to deal with these GMs; he's consistently overpaying for these waiver-wire talents that the other GMs are overtly trying to dump

5 hours ago, GreenSox said:

Dominguez for Castillo was the trade. Seattle had been trying to dump Castillo for months. What is Getz trading for pitchers with 5+ERAs and sub .600 OPS for anyway? Getz really needs an experienced assistant to deal with these GMs; he's consistently overpaying for these waiver-wire talents that the other GMs are overtly trying to dump

You don’t come more experienced than Carlos Rodriguez and they also pretty sure they still have Gene Watson as well as Barfield.

That said, nobody would have predicted Mahle as the best pickup só far.

Holmes and Skubal, sure.

On 8/24/2026 at 4:10 PM, fathom said:

Yeah they’re not eating that contract. I did say when they acquired him that it wouldn’t shock me if we start seeing “DFA Castillo” threads starting around May of next year.

This is being optimistic at this point.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?month=0&pos=all&stats=pit&type=8&qual=100&pagenum=4&pageitems=30

Kay is #89 and Castillo #98 out of 108 pitchers in fWAR at over 100 innings pitched.

Fedde #166/171.

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Watched some videos of Castillo from 2020. He’s really changed his mechanics. To me, he seems to be throwing too much drifting to the third base side. At times, he looks like a side armer. It’s crazy how much his tenure reminds me of Shields so far

2 hours ago, fathom said:

Watched some videos of Castillo from 2020. He’s really changed his mechanics. To me, he seems to be throwing too much drifting to the third base side. At times, he looks like a side armer. It’s crazy how much his tenure reminds me of Shields so far

Throws a lot sidearm and there's no deception and maybe little extension (haven't checked.) And when he does throw sideline seems like he leads with his elbow as if he's throwing inside out . He has to get on top of the ball otherwise his pitches will be flat and won't break.

He's going to have to reinvent himself in the offseason. Small silver lining but at least he was able to go 4 last night and not completely melt down in the first couple innings. That said, it was a miracle he did not, a lot of hard hit balls found a glove.

Trade looks awful right now is what it is, at least his team is picking him up.

3 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said:

He's going to have to reinvent himself in the offseason. Small silver lining but at least he was able to go 4 last night and not completely melt down in the first couple innings. That said, it was a miracle he did not, a lot of hard hit balls found a glove.

Trade looks awful right now is what it is, at least his team is picking him up.

True but they probably can't keep doing it forever.

On 8/21/2026 at 7:59 AM, Bob Sacamano said:

Balls. Also, I find the “he doesn’t have a position here” lazy. If he keeps blowing up, he’s no longer here to use as a bigger trade chip for a starter with control at some point (this offseason, next year, next offseason, etc)

I would think that if they could target a 6th rounder out of somebody else's farm system to teach up and get them hitting 30 minor league HRs, they could do that more than once.

22 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

I would think that if they could target a 6th rounder out of somebody else's farm system to teach up and get them hitting 30 minor league HRs, they could do that more than once.

It's just that simple. Get it done, Getz!

1 hour ago, ron883 said:

It's just that simple. Get it done, Getz!

Well, they already did that with Curtis Mead, Tristan Peters and Miguel Vargas, as far as maxing out their offensive potential. We act like, "Oh, noes, they traded the one guy they could have used to trade for somebody," as if that's the only surprise minor league guy who will come along. I think they have at least 4-6 guys like that from Kannapolis on up who have a similar value to Boston Smith.

The TDL is nuts, and it sure sounds like the asking for guys like Detmers was way out there. It is possible Getz wasn't the only suitor for Castillo.

57 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Well, they already did that with Curtis Mead, Tristan Peters and Miguel Vargas, as far as maxing out their offensive potential. We act like, "Oh, noes, they traded the one guy they could have used to trade for somebody," as if that's the only surprise minor league guy who will come along. I think they have at least 4-6 guys like that from Kannapolis on up who have a similar value to Boston Smith.

The TDL is nuts, and it sure sounds like the asking for guys like Detmers was way out there. It is possible Getz wasn't the only suitor for Castillo.

We've got 4-6 guys in Kannapolis who could potentially lead the entire minors leagues in OPS? If so, Getz is a miracle worker.

Castillo was worth -0.7 WAR when we got him. He was awful and he looks completely done. Not only did we give up a guy who was absolutely mashing, but we are on the hook for Castillo next season (minus Dominguez of course).

I don't understand the mental gymnastics you are performing to defend this terrible trade. It's ok to admit Getz screwed the pooch.

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44 minutes ago, ron883 said:

We've got 4-6 guys in Kannapolis who could potentially lead the entire minors leagues in OPS? If so, Getz is a miracle worker.

Castillo was worth -0.7 WAR when we got him. He was awful and he looks completely done. Not only did we give up a guy who was absolutely mashing, but we are on the hook for Castillo next season (minus Dominguez of course).

I don't understand the mental gymnastics you are performing to defend this terrible trade. It's ok to admit Getz screwed the pooch.

4-6 guys in Kannapolis ON UP. Do you understand what that might mean? The top 4 levels of the minor leagues. Oh, but they have to lead the minor leagues in OPS? Do they also have to be named Boston Smith to make it work for you? It's silly to pretend that we had one player in our system who would bring trade interest.

I don't understand the mental gymnastics you're performing to trash this trade. Thinking people can agree on what Getz was trying to do. Acquire a pitcher who they could work with and not pay a lot for in prospects. Why would I complain about that? We didn't trade Caleb Bonemer and Carlson to acquire Detmers. That's great.

On 8/2/2026 at 10:06 AM, Buehrle>Wood said:

There is no way this is true

It's just ugly...no matter how you look at it.

"Saving" on the Dominguez deal doesn't exactly free up more $$$ to spend in FA in October/November or after the lockout is resolved.

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On 8/2/2026 at 10:06 AM, Buehrle>Wood said:

There is no way this is true

AB	AVG	HR	RBI	SB	OPS
338	.293	31	80	10	1.066

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Boston Smith has only been in the Mariners organization for about two minutes (give or take a month or so), but he's already become one of our favorite prospects. At the time of the Luis Castillo trade, we thought it was too good to be true that Smith was included as part of the return package, and since then he has only gone on to reinforce this sentiment. A player who saw a meteoric rise through the White Sox's minor league system, has been even better since arriving in the Pacific Northwest.

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4 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

4-6 guys in Kannapolis ON UP. Do you understand what that might mean? The top 4 levels of the minor leagues. Oh, but they have to lead the minor leagues in OPS? Do they also have to be named Boston Smith to make it work for you? It's silly to pretend that we had one player in our system who would bring trade interest.

I don't understand the mental gymnastics you're performing to trash this trade. Thinking people can agree on what Getz was trying to do. Acquire a pitcher who they could work with and not pay a lot for in prospects. Why would I complain about that? We didn't trade Caleb Bonemer and Carlson to acquire Detmers. That's great.

So we traded for a pitcher who is worth -1.0 bWAR. He was worth -0.7bWAR when we traded for him. He was one of the worst pitchers in the league when we traded for him and he continues to be one of the worst. He is 33 years old. He is under contract for $24 million next session. The guy we traded isn't a blue chip prospect, but he's on fire, leads the minors in OPS and appears to have a legit bat.

Minus Sir Anthony's contract, we owe him $14m next season. That is literally 15% of our current payroll. We have a notoriously cheap owner. That's the worst part of the trade.

But somehow you can't see how that was a bad trade. I feel like you're trolling at this point with the senseless positivity.

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9 minutes ago, ron883 said:

So we traded for a pitcher who is worth -1.0 bWAR. He was worth -0.7bWAR when we traded for him. He was one of the worst pitchers in the league when we traded for him and he continues to be one of the worst. He is 33 years old. He is under contract for $24 million next session. The guy we traded isn't a blue chip prospect, but he's on fire, leads the minors in OPS and appears to have a legit bat.

Minus Sir Anthony's contract, we owe him $14m next season. That is literally 15% of our current payroll. We have a notoriously cheap owner.

But somehow you can't see how that was a bad trade. I'm assuming you're trolling at this point with the senseless positivity.

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