Getz acquired these guys because he thinks he can fix them. Fegan confirmed this.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2026/08/25/white-sox-trade-deadline-acquisitions-huascar-brazoban-injured-list-brenton-doyle-luis-castillo-jose-urquidy-joey-bart-jake-rogers-andrew-benintendi-chris-getz-walker-mckinven

These weren't moves simply for this season. They were for next season too. They think they can tweak something with Castillo's change to get him pitching at high levels again. Doyle is a specimen and they think they can unlock his tools.

It's easy to look so good they're doing and be angry. But Getz has a plan. He thinks he can unlock their potential. Getz has earned the benefit of the doubt. We need to let him cook.

Edited 23 hours ago23 hr by ron883

Again, Getz is not playing for 26.

huge win.

38 minutes ago, ron883 said:

Getz acquired these guys because he thinks he can fix them. Fegan confirmed this.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2026/08/25/white-sox-trade-deadline-acquisitions-huascar-brazoban-injured-list-brenton-doyle-luis-castillo-jose-urquidy-joey-bart-jake-rogers-andrew-benintendi-chris-getz-walker-mckinven

These weren't moves simply for this season. They were for next season too. They think they can tweak something with Castillo's change to get him pitching at high levels again. Doyle is a specimen and they think they can unlock his tools.

It's easy to look so good they're doing and be angry. But Getz has a plan. He thinks he can unlock their potential. Getz has earned the benefit of the doubt. We need to let him cook.

You're a trip ! A few days ago you were calling it a disaster of a deadline.

1 minute ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

You're a trip ! A few days ago you were calling it a disaster of a deadline.

You’re so close

43 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Again, Getz is not playing for 26.

Which is kind of annoying, because it's not often this franchise makes the playoffs and there's a lot of uncertainty towards next year because of the impending lockout.

I'm not saying they should have traded Bonemer, but they should have tried a lot harder to acquire better rentals. Instead they went for team control of guys who aren't good.

1 minute ago, chw42 said:

Which is kind of annoying, because it's not often this franchise makes the playoffs and there's a lot of uncertainty towards next year because of the impending lockout.

I'm not saying they should have traded Bonemer, but they should have tried a lot harder to acquire better rentals. Instead they went for team control of guys who aren't good.

That decision isn't looking very good right now is it?

37 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Which is kind of annoying, because it's not often this franchise makes the playoffs and there's a lot of uncertainty towards next year because of the impending lockout.

I'm not saying they should have traded Bonemer, but they should have tried a lot harder to acquire better rentals. Instead they went for team control of guys who aren't good.

Getz'll fix 'em

3 minutes ago, ron883 said:

Getz'll fix 'em

Dude Panican’ed due to Peters’ temporary slump and gave up too much for a potential non-tender CF in the offseason. Castillo is James Shields v2.0 and Mason Adams would look like an ace compared to him right about now.

What GM pays a big price for a player that hasn’t been good for 2 full seasons and then employs him as a backup CF that only starts against lefties in a playoff run?

Getz is basically showing us that he fucked up by the way Doyle is being used. He should have just brought back Billy Hamilton. He could also play Gold Glove defense and OPS around .630 and would only cost $780K. 🤣

Edited 21 hours ago21 hr by WhiteSox2023

His start against Cincinnati isn't one that came out of nowhere. Let's see what can be done. He did look a bit better in the last two innings and I actually think he would have been ok going 5. We'll see. I think the key to Reds start was he relied almost solely on the fastball and change up while mixing in the sinker when needed. Also changed arm angles really effectively.

16 minutes ago, Colome's Hat said:

His start against Cincinnati isn't one that came out of nowhere. Let's see what can be done. He did look a bit better in the last two innings and I actually think he would have been ok going 5. We'll see. I think the key to Reds start was he relied almost solely on the fastball and change up while mixing in the sinker when needed. Also changed arm angles really effectively.

The Reds are one of the worst offenses in baseball. There’s your answer. Castillo has been turrible in all of his other four starts. That’s 1 good start out of 5 for a supposed “ace”.

Castillo is headed for retirement, only Getz didn’t realize it. But we get to pay him $23.75 million for next season and he cost us Boston Smith. Sweet deal.

This will end up being worse than the Cease trade which is impressive. The Doyle trade could also end up being #2 on Getz’s list of shame. The Cease trade may end up being better than both of these if Thorpe can at least be a #4/#5 starter.

Edited 21 hours ago21 hr by WhiteSox2023

I don’t quite understand why teams dick around trading for guys like Castillo instead of just bringing up arms from the farm. Times like this truly make me wonder if teams do get intimidated by press and fans that are bleeding and pleading for deadline deals.

1 hour ago, chw42 said:

Which is kind of annoying, because it's not often this franchise makes the playoffs and there's a lot of uncertainty towards next year because of the impending lockout.

I'm not saying they should have traded Bonemer, but they should have tried a lot harder to acquire better rentals. Instead they went for team control of guys who aren't good.

Define a “lot harder” though. If you mean trading low on talent, that’s never been a good productive idea despite how often it’s done. Especially in the long run. The Sox weren’t in great position to deal. And they may have lost a trade (so far) sacrificing a body to the fans and media.

1 minute ago, Chick Mercedes said:

I don’t quite understand why teams dick around trading for guys like Castillo instead of just bringing up arms from the farm. Times like this truly make me wonder if teams do get intimidated by press and fans that are bleeding and pleading for deadline deals.

Exactly. Even if this is an off year for Castillo, he’s OLD and players decline. While this could simply be a down season, how could you assume that considering he is turning 34 at the end of this year? Why would you give up a solid prospect return and take on money for a starter that isn’t pitching better than a #5 starter in a playoff run? He gave up 6 years of cheap control over Mason Adams for a 5+ ERA starter. Mason Adams could end up being a bust but I’d put my money on him out-WAR’ing Castillo over the next 6 years, rather than Castillo until the end of next season. Just a flat-out awful trade, and it’s still questionable if it’s worse than the Doyle trade.

Luckily, I’m wrong about all of this because Getz has never made a bad trade. 🤣

Edited 21 hours ago21 hr by WhiteSox2023

What’s the expression. Don’t confuse activity with progress. Something like that. Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don’t make. There’s another.

They are still waiver-wire talents. Trading for them is highly questionable.

2 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

They are still waiver-wire talents. Trading for them is highly questionable.

Exactly.

You don’t pay a premium for additional year(s) of control for bad players in a playoff run. Grab cheaper rentals that are currently performing well and then sign better players for future seasons when there is a much larger pool of players to choose from in free agency.

But the Sox are still cheap under Jerry, so this is what happens…

Edited 20 hours ago20 hr by WhiteSox2023

Getting a fresh Davis Martin should be a big help to the SP staff.

Edited 14 hours ago14 hr by Falstaff

Just now, Falstaff said:

I was onboard with the trade for Castillo and wanted Johnny Cueto results. I am hoping he can right the ship and give innings. The whole Sox starting staff is struggling to give even 5 innings. It all started with Martin hitting the wall before the All-Star game. The Sox run production and bullpen are an elite force, but 6 innings from a starter would go a long way in preserving BP arms.

17 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Exactly.

You don’t pay a premium for additional year(s) of control for bad players in a playoff run. Grab cheaper rentals that are currently performing well and then sign better players for future seasons when there is a much larger pool of players to choose from in free agency.

But the Sox are still cheap under Jerry, so this is what happens…

I don't know that it has anything to do with being cheap. Everyone needs a 4th/5th OF, which Doyle is , other than one good outlier year on offense. Hill is the same player, pulled off of the waiver wire. they then dump Hill for basically nothing, and a couple of months later, trade for the same kind of player in Doyle. To be fair, these kind of trades plus his waiver pickups have been an overall positive. But perhaps Getz can just slow down a little and stop the zig-zagging.

19 hours ago, Chick Mercedes said:

I don’t quite understand why teams dick around trading for guys like Castillo instead of just bringing up arms from the farm. Times like this truly make me wonder if teams do get intimidated by press and fans that are bleeding and pleading for deadline deals.

It is kind of the known vs unknown when assessing talent. Castillo can eat inning, Schultz can not. We have seen this play out.

I do not agree with acquiring Castillo though.

19 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Dude Panican’ed due to Peters’ temporary slump and gave up too much for a potential non-tender CF in the offseason. Castillo is James Shields v2.0 and Mason Adams would look like an ace compared to him right about now.

What GM pays a big price for a player that hasn’t been good for 2 full seasons and then employs him as a backup CF that only starts against lefties in a playoff run?

Getz is basically showing us that he fucked up by the way Doyle is being used. He should have just brought back Billy Hamilton. He could also play Gold Glove defense and OPS around .630 and would only cost $780K. 🤣

So let me get this straight. Mason Adams, a player who hasn't been good for 2 seasons, is now a "big price" to pay for a guy who "hasn't been good for 2 full seasons"? And Getz is showing he fucked up by using Doyle pretty much the way they were trying to use the guy he replaced, Everson Pereira? Colorado gave away Doyle for nothing. Mason Adams takes on the Braves in Atlanta tomorrow. I hope Adams shoves and positions himself as part of the next Rockies' core. Improving on his adequate 4 innings last time out will be paramount.

I think it's off-the-charts great that in two seasons, Getz has created such a backlog of infield talent they're able to trade some away and repurpose the better bats to create a backlog of outfield talent.

Oh, the Sox are 13-11 since the TDL. That's a .541 clip, which is better than their .531 pct they held on 8/3. Chris Getz's TDL have them playing better than they were before the TDL.

19 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

The Reds are one of the worst offenses in baseball. There’s your answer. Castillo has been turrible in all of his other four starts. That’s 1 good start out of 5 for a supposed “ace”.

Castillo is headed for retirement, only Getz didn’t realize it. But we get to pay him $23.75 million for next season and he cost us Boston Smith. Sweet deal.

This will end up being worse than the Cease trade which is impressive. The Doyle trade could also end up being #2 on Getz’s list of shame. The Cease trade may end up being better than both of these if Thorpe can at least be a #4/#5 starter.

Chris Getz's worst trades. Remembering, of course, that your criteria is "I can imagine the players we sent being Hall-of-Famers", and plugging an acquisition into the spot that was intended means a trade was a failure. LOL.

21 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

So let me get this straight. Mason Adams, a player who hasn't been good for 2 seasons, is now a "big price" to pay for a guy who "hasn't been good for 2 full seasons"? And Getz is showing he fucked up by using Doyle pretty much the way they were trying to use the guy he replaced, Everson Pereira? Colorado gave away Doyle for nothing. Mason Adams takes on the Braves in Atlanta tomorrow. I hope Adams shoves and positions himself as part of the next Rockies' core. Improving on his adequate 4 innings last time out will be paramount.

I think it's off-the-charts great that in two seasons, Getz has created such a backlog of infield talent they're able to trade some away and repurpose the better bats to create a backlog of outfield talent.

Oh, the Sox are 13-11 since the TDL. That's a .541 clip, which is better than their .531 pct they held on 8/3. Chris Getz's TDL have them playing better than they were before the TDL.

The Sox can still win games in spite of the players Getz acquired stinking up the joint. Not sure that’s a good way of judging those trades. Castillo has been worse with the Sox than he was with the Mariners — 6.45 ERA and 1.66 WHIP through 5 starts. That’s awful.

I don’t really understand your comments about the Rockies giving away Doyle for nothing, but that’s probably closer to what his true value was. He could have been a non-tender by the Rockies in the offseason.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by WhiteSox2023

19 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Luckily, I’m wrong about all of this because Getz has never made a bad trade. 🤣

Getz has made trades that haven't worked out. I don't think 3 weeks after a trade is the time to judge that a trade is "bad".