15 minutes ago, South Side Fireworks Man said:

You always need a backup shortstop.

Yeah and if they think Chase can be that guy, it's less pressure for your backup IF to be able to. Better chance of finding a bat with some pop then IMO. All I know is, Acuna is probably a non-tender candidate. Mission accomplished dumping Robert.

Edited yesterday at 03:07 PM1 day by Bob Sacamano

Funny how there are people arguing he has no trade value, while others are arguing how rare his profile is and why it has value.

"Keep him because he has value"

"Keep him because he has no value"

He clearly has trade value. Trade him.

Just now, Bonemer, I Hardly Know Her said:

Funny how there are people arguing he has no trade value, while others are arguing how rare his profile is and why it has value.

"Keep him because he has value"

"Keep him because he has no value"

He clearly has trade value. Trade him.

Not no trade value. No one ever said that. You would be selling extremely low. We also do not know why he is slumping as no one ever asks questions of substance of Sox management.

16 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Not no trade value. No one ever said that. You would be selling extremely low. We also do not know why he is slumping as no one ever asks questions of substance of Sox management.

For such a low achieving team they sure to get a lot of soft ball questions.

He will get trades and another organization will fix him like Andrew Vaughn

1 minute ago, Melton1972 said:

He will get trades and another organization will fix him like Andrew Vaughn

Probably, but we all know the Sox won't fix him so trade him anyway. He's just going to waste away here.

23 minutes ago, Melton1972 said:

He will get trades and another organization will fix him like Andrew Vaughn

That very well could happen, but it's like spending all your money to buy a Ferrari, and not having any money left to spend on gas. What's the point of having it then, let someone else with the resources to actually use it.

The logical move is to wait and see on Colson for at least another year. He's 24 and has played 1.5 seasons of Major League Baseball. 2/3 of his time has been good, the last 1/3 has been terrible. There has been talk about his health, which could play a factor in his 2nd half performance, the Sox would know better than us. But as I mentioned a few days ago, the unfortunate thing is if you asked this group in July about Colson, everyone would have said he's one of the cornerstones for this team the next 3-4 seasons, at least. Now, that can't be said with any sort of confidence. None of us know who he is going to be. He could end the regular season with an OPS under .700. That's a LONG way from the .840 OPS he put up in 2025.

1 hour ago, Melton1972 said:

He will get trades and another organization will fix him like Andrew Vaughn

the root of the problem is often ignored

part of that is surrounding someone with better players, better organizations. better coaching

He played under a comatose manager and then an ass kisser from a habitual losing organization.

33 minutes ago, Tony said:

That very well could happen, but it's like spending all your money to buy a Ferrari, and not having any money left to spend on gas. What's the point of having it then, let someone else with the resources to actually use it.

The logical move is to wait and see on Colson for at least another year. He's 24 and has played 1.5 seasons of Major League Baseball. 2/3 of his time has been good, the last 1/3 has been terrible. There has been talk about his health, which could play a factor in his 2nd half performance, the Sox would know better than us. But as I mentioned a few days ago, the unfortunate thing is if you asked this group in July about Colson, everyone would have said he's one of the cornerstones for this team the next 3-4 seasons, at least. Now, that can't be said with any sort of confidence. None of us know who he is going to be. He could end the regular season with an OPS under .700. That's a LONG way from the .840 OPS he put up in 2025.

nope, we cannot abandon our knee jerk attitude. I will never forget on a forum in 2023 during the Crosstown Classic how Cub fans would take Robert over PCA.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

Not no trade value. No one ever said that. You would be selling extremely low. We also do not know why he is slumping as no one ever asks questions of substance of Sox management.

that is what the offseason is for. He'll work on it.

Wow what a bust to have a young player who hit over 30 HR and over 80 RBIs and plus a key position and has proven he can catch a baseball.

2 minutes ago, kitekrazy1 said:

that is what the offseason is for. He'll work on it.

Wow what a bust to have a young player who hit over 30 HR and over 80 RBIs and plus a key position and has proven he can catch a baseball.

Who said a bust?

just to take some of the slack off colson here, if murakami didn't miss 6 weeks bc of injury, he would easily have over 270 strikeouts by now, nobody can argue that

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

Who said a bust?

no shortage of that anywhere on the net discussing WS baseball among WS fans. This forum is not the only corner of the world.

3 minutes ago, kitekrazy1 said:

no shortage of that anywhere on the net discussing WS baseball among WS fans. This forum is not the only corner of the world.

Thanks for your Caulfielding of this thread.

24 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Who said a bust?

Me

25 minutes ago, joejoesox said:

just to take some of the slack off colson here, if murakami didn't miss 6 weeks bc of injury, he would easily have over 270 strikeouts by now, nobody can argue that

He was pretty hot when he hurt his hamstring. Maybe he doesn’t get into that funk if he just kept playing

1 hour ago, Tony said:

That very well could happen, but it's like spending all your money to buy a Ferrari, and not having any money left to spend on gas. What's the point of having it then, let someone else with the resources to actually use it.

The logical move is to wait and see on Colson for at least another year. He's 24 and has played 1.5 seasons of Major League Baseball. 2/3 of his time has been good, the last 1/3 has been terrible. There has been talk about his health, which could play a factor in his 2nd half performance, the Sox would know better than us. But as I mentioned a few days ago, the unfortunate thing is if you asked this group in July about Colson, everyone would have said he's one of the cornerstones for this team the next 3-4 seasons, at least. Now, that can't be said with any sort of confidence. None of us know who he is going to be. He could end the regular season with an OPS under .700. That's a LONG way from the .840 OPS he put up in 2025.

Well said. Yes, this slump has been brutal but sophomore slumps are pretty common for young players. I want to see at least 1 more full season out of him before judging too much.

If we can be objective about this, Colson's struggles are greatly amplified by the fact that the Sox are going to the postseason. There's a lot on the line and him being in an extended sophomore slump is not helping at all and unfortunately turning many Sox fans against him, some even going so far to label him a bust.

I say that if the Sox had the same record as last year, it would be a much more common mindset to give Colson next year to see if he is 2025/first-half 2026 Colson, or if 2nd half 2026 is the real Colson, or if the answer is somewhere in the middle.

I just hope everyone has fun and doesn’t get hurt.

I’m as down on Colson as anyone, especially with his stratospheric K rate and one dimensional power approach, but he’s 24. Look at Vargas’ age 24 season. We need to give him a chance to turn it around. If his age 25 season doesn’t show signs of improvement, we have depth.

There's an opportunity cost to keeping a black hole in the lineup hoping to improve.

On 9/23/2026 at 10:44 PM, southsider2k5 said:

How many dudes that peaked at AA hit 30 homers in a major league seaso

Yes, he was very good when pitchers would serve him up beach balls. Now that they have stopped doing that, he's completely lost and can't adjust his swing and easily fooled. And his best AA was .244 in 2023, and his best AAA were .214 in 2024 and .218 in 2025. He's clearly out of his league. He was at his best level in high A.

2 minutes ago, Rounding_Third said:

Yes, he was very good when pitchers would serve him up beach balls. Now that they have stopped doing that, he's completely lost and can't adjust his swing and easily fooled. And his best AA was .244 in 2023, and his best AAA were .214 in 2024 and .218 in 2025. He's clearly out of his league. He was at his best level in high A.

And yet he is still a .700 OPS hitter with high level defense. That's not topped out at AA.

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

And yet he is still a .700 OPS hitter with high level defense. That's not topped out at AA.

To pile on here. 13th of 22 qualified SS's better than notables such as Nico Horner, Xander Bogarts, Bo Bichette and Trea Turner, in his first full season at MLB.

On 9/24/2026 at 2:04 PM, Green Line said:

There's an opportunity cost to keeping a black hole in the lineup hoping to improve.

Who's the SS under the trade Colson proposal?

He knows he needs to get straight, so hopefully he makes strides in the offseason. He could start by not swinging for the fences. There's a bigger cost in prematurely dumping young players.