South Side Fireworks Man Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I know that things have not materialized up to this point of the season, but I don't expect [the players] to give up and I don't expect them to think that I've given up. We're going to keep pushing it. We're going to still go out there and acquire some players that I think will help us make a run. That is in the short term and the long term." "I hope to be in a buyer's mode, quote unquote, which is pretty atypical for a team that is as far back in the standings as we are, but that's who we are," Williams said. "We have to keep pushing the envelope." The White Sox are 13 games behind Detroit and 12 games behind Cleveland in the American League Central race, but manager Ozzie Guillen also hopes that the Buehrle signing will show that management has not given up on 2007. "The White Sox organization is showing people that we are trying and we aren't going to throw the white flag," he said. "Hopefully those guys continue to play for us and keep playing hard and make this thing more fun." Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Kenny saying "buyer's mode" is different than a GM like Omar Minaya saying the Mets are in "buyers mode". I'm taking this to mean that if (or, more appropriatey, when) Kenny trades Dye, Iguchi and/or Contreras, he's looking for young players who can step in and play within the next year. I think he feels that he's built up a strong enough rotation to where the Sox won't have to go through a total "rebuilding" mode, so he wants guys like Richar who, at the very least, will be competing for a spot in 2008. I don't take this to mean the Sox will be offering Gio Gonzalez and Ryan Sweeney for Ken Griffey in an effort to save 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Um..........yeah. So, I'm just assuming that KW will still be smart enough to move Contreras to whoever gives us the best deal, Iguchi either via trade now or let him walk after '07 and let Richar have a shot, Dye traded to whoever and let Sweeney play RF for '07. And so help me god, if I have to see anyone named Podsednik or Erstad on this roster in '08... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 11:49 PM) Kenny saying "buyer's mode" is different than a GM like Omar Minaya saying the Mets are in "buyers mode". I'm taking this to mean that if (or, more appropriatey, when) Kenny trades Dye, Iguchi and/or Contreras, he's looking for young players who can step in and play within the next year. I think he feels that he's built up a strong enough rotation to where the Sox won't have to go through a total "rebuilding" mode, so he wants guys like Richar who, at the very least, will be competing for a spot in 2008. I don't take this to mean the Sox will be offering Gio Gonzalez and Ryan Sweeney for Ken Griffey in an effort to save 2007. This wouldn't be a bad scenario. Don't give up too much, but at the same time try making some deals you would in the offseason now to see if they would work for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_44 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 i do think it's funny that at places like ESPN you have two under .500 teams that are double digits in games behind in the Yankees and White Sox and yet the Yankees are supposedly " in it" and the Sox have no chance. In reality, they are both most likely out of it. However, if i had to pick a team more likely to make a run, it would be the Sox. Their pitching is a ton better than NY's and if the KW could somehow acquire some bullpen talent then it's possible they could make an unlikely run. It sounds to me like KW is saying he's not looking for young prospects in the lower levels. I think he's wanting young guys that can contribute right away. Guys like Khalil Greene, Pelfrey,Broxton who have alot of potential but are not necessarily household names yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Dixie Normus Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 If they don't take 3 of 4 against Baltimore and sweep the Indians, the Sox won't make a historic run. We will know pretty early if there is any hope at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 9, 2007 -> 04:49 AM) Kenny saying "buyer's mode" is different than a GM like Omar Minaya saying the Mets are in "buyers mode". I'm taking this to mean that if (or, more appropriatey, when) Kenny trades Dye, Iguchi and/or Contreras, he's looking for young players who can step in and play within the next year. I think he feels that he's built up a strong enough rotation to where the Sox won't have to go through a total "rebuilding" mode, so he wants guys like Richar who, at the very least, will be competing for a spot in 2008. I don't take this to mean the Sox will be offering Gio Gonzalez and Ryan Sweeney for Ken Griffey in an effort to save 2007. Yeah, that's the way I took it too. He's definitely not in it to get some old vets to help us compete this year, but rather interested in trading for young, ML-ready players. Like acquiring a Matt Kemp or Jacob Ellsbury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 always believe the opposite of what KW says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 QUOTE(Lemon_44 @ Jul 9, 2007 -> 12:06 AM) i do think it's funny that at places like ESPN you have two under .500 teams that are double digits in games behind in the Yankees and White Sox and yet the Yankees are supposedly " in it" and the Sox have no chance. In reality, they are both most likely out of it. However, if i had to pick a team more likely to make a run, it would be the Sox. Their pitching is a ton better than NY's and if the KW could somehow acquire some bullpen talent then it's possible they could make an unlikely run. The Yankees are 8.5 out in the Wild Card, 10 out in the East, and actually have an offense. The Sox are 13 out in the Central, 12 out in the Wild Card, and have to go 51-25 simply to win 90 games. It's virtually impossible for the Sox, while the Yankees actually have the talent up and down their roster to put together such a run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHolyBovine Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 QUOTE(Jimbo @ Jul 9, 2007 -> 01:03 AM) always believe the opposite of what KW says. Exactly. This is KW's way of letting other teams know that he won't be giving anyone away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jul 9, 2007 -> 01:18 AM) The Yankees are 8.5 out in the Wild Card, 10 out in the East, and actually have an offense. The Sox are 13 out in the Central, 12 out in the Wild Card, and have to go 51-25 simply to win 90 games. It's virtually impossible for the Sox, while the Yankees actually have the talent up and down their roster to put together such a run. Not to mention we have to leap 2 serious contenders in the division. With as many games left against division oppenents it's conceivable to catch one team. To catch 2 that are both double digit games ahead would be near impossible. QUOTE(TheHolyBovine @ Jul 9, 2007 -> 01:26 AM) Exactly. This is KW's way of letting other teams know that he won't be giving anyone away. The other GMs aren't stupid though. They know what's up. The only thing these quotes might effect, are fan perception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I think they're out of the slump that has held 'em back. Playoffs? It's too late, yeah, far too late, but a respectable mark at the end of the season after all the chicken littles screamed 70 or less wins is do-able. The slump seems to be done with and funnier things have happened in baseball. My way of looking at it is he's saying he has faith in our guys. (and if we can get rid of Count to NYM for something sweet, it'd just be icing on the cake) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 10:49 PM) Kenny saying "buyer's mode" is different than a GM like Omar Minaya saying the Mets are in "buyers mode". I'm taking this to mean that if (or, more appropriatey, when) Kenny trades Dye, Iguchi and/or Contreras, he's looking for young players who can step in and play within the next year. I think he feels that he's built up a strong enough rotation to where the Sox won't have to go through a total "rebuilding" mode, so he wants guys like Richar who, at the very least, will be competing for a spot in 2008. I don't take this to mean the Sox will be offering Gio Gonzalez and Ryan Sweeney for Ken Griffey in an effort to save 2007. Sandy Alomar is back in the bigs, how about Sweeney for him straight up, or whomever is the best reliever for the Barons at the time. Gio's safe, you don't trade a guy then reaquire him, then trade him again. Or, Jack Egbert for any injury prone, washed up former closer, middle reliever? Just not Schnur, the fans in B'ham demand the Schnur! Edited July 9, 2007 by JPN366 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 i have been really surprise i haven't seen any fire kw post yet. not that i want to be the the first..... i am glad MB was resign... if kw is going to be in a buyers mode, i hope he does the smart trade and max out all he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 In KW's world, every day is opposite day! Ozzie pantomimes to amuse him: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoota Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Sounds like KW is too scared to lose trades in which he's the seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 QUOTE(shoota @ Jul 9, 2007 -> 10:00 AM) Sounds like KW is too scared to lose trades in which he's the seller. since when? i would have sworn that he lost on the freddy for floyd trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 QUOTE(LDF @ Jul 9, 2007 -> 05:18 AM) since when? i would have sworn that he lost on the freddy for floyd trade. He might not have received as much valuable as possible in that deal, but he certainly didn't lose it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 9, 2007 -> 04:49 AM) Kenny saying "buyer's mode" is different than a GM like Omar Minaya saying the Mets are in "buyers mode". I'm taking this to mean that if (or, more appropriatey, when) Kenny trades Dye, Iguchi and/or Contreras, he's looking for young players who can step in and play within the next year. I think he feels that he's built up a strong enough rotation to where the Sox won't have to go through a total "rebuilding" mode, so he wants guys like Richar who, at the very least, will be competing for a spot in 2008. I don't take this to mean the Sox will be offering Gio Gonzalez and Ryan Sweeney for Ken Griffey in an effort to save 2007. Exactly. KW might trade some prospects or players. Yet it won't be for a 3 month rental. It might be for say a veteran bullpen arm who's under contract for 08 or young player ready to step in a position of need like SS or the OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 11:44 PM) lol my thoughts exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 You guys obviously didn't see him talk at the Future's game. He basically was saying the same thing, but when he said we're in buyer's mode--it was for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosox41 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 8, 2007 -> 11:49 PM) Kenny saying "buyer's mode" is different than a GM like Omar Minaya saying the Mets are in "buyers mode". I'm taking this to mean that if (or, more appropriatey, when) Kenny trades Dye, Iguchi and/or Contreras, he's looking for young players who can step in and play within the next year. I think he feels that he's built up a strong enough rotation to where the Sox won't have to go through a total "rebuilding" mode, so he wants guys like Richar who, at the very least, will be competing for a spot in 2008. I don't take this to mean the Sox will be offering Gio Gonzalez and Ryan Sweeney for Ken Griffey in an effort to save 2007. I hope not. With KW, you never know. He has that football mentality of it not being over until the math says so. Baseball is different. The Sox season is essentially over. I hope KW is smart and trades the FA's who can help us next year. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 He is a buyer... for young talent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Does anyone think KW was going to come out and say "hey, fire sale here! Get your veteran talent here - all for the low low price of your best 2008+ projected prospects!"??? That would be stupid not just among the GM's, but also in broadcasting to the fan base something akin to "we give up on 2007". He is looking at 2008 and 2009. If it helps 2007, hey, great, bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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