maggsmaggs Posted March 27, 2008 Author Share Posted March 27, 2008 QUOTE(Heads22 @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 04:19 PM) 95 because we got rid of Ryan Sweeney. Heads, been drinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 (edited) QUOTE(BigEdWalsh @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 04:03 PM) Wow. With all the negativity I've read on here all winter and spring I can't believe I'm the only one going wins 70-73 wins, though I can imagine even worse. I've got a real bad feeling about this year and I so hope I'm wrong. Maybe it's just that I'm totally miffed that Uribe is still on this team. Defensively the Sox are pretty darn good. Offensively pretty darn below average. I foresee a lot of those homers and not much else type games. Pitching....ugh. Contreras, Floyd and Danks scare the crap out of me although they probably don't have that effect on the rest of the AL. As for the bullpen, nothing but a bunch of question marks and ho-hums aside from Jenks. You, sir, have an excellent signature. Zappa & the MOI ftw! Edited March 27, 2008 by Felix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 I'm going to say 83. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 DET: 95 wins CLE: 90 wins CHA: 83 wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 83 to 87. Â Third place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baines3 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 I'm hoping between 86-89 wins. I'd be happy with that this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTank Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 QUOTE(BearSox @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 04:12 PM) wow, the Tigers win only 79? With possibly the best offense in baseball, and a pitching staff which ain't all that bad, they only muster up 79 wins? But we get 90... wow. I'd take it, but I am being kind when I say HIGHLY unlikely. Â I have a feeling guys like Sheffield, Renteria, and Pudge might break down this year. Then who would they have besides Granderson, Maggs, Palanco, and M Cab. Sure you can argue that is a great 1-4 group of hitters, but, they have no production in the rest of that line-up. Their pitching sucks, with the exceptions of Verlander right now and Rick Porcello in the future. D Willis doesn't look like he'll be coming around anytime soon either. Bullpen is among the worst in the league too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 (edited) QUOTE(BearSox @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 04:25 PM) For the upcomming season... Vazquez = Verlander Rogers Bonderman > Contrera Willis >= Danks Robertson >= Floyd  So, to take into account their rotation is as good or even better then ours, plus they have the best offense in baseball, it's tough to see how they will win only 79, but we somehow win 90.  Our only real advantage against them is our pen. Todd Jones is gonna get lit up. Like I said, I have talked about this too much. Go look through my posts if you want to know my opinion on their staff. Talking to you is dreadful in general. Edited March 27, 2008 by max power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 03:11 PM) On the bolded... do you have those reversed? Because I'd say the opposite on each. No. That is what I believe. With Crede back at 3rd and the addition of Cabrera I believe defensively they're pretty darn good. Offensively, other than hitting homers, which their opponents will probably do more of, I think they are below average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Indians are going to walk away with this division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 04:45 PM) Indians are going to walk away with this division. Â Like how we were supposed to in 2006? Or the Tigers were supposed to last year? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Start at 162 and subtract one for every game Joe Crede, Juan Uribe, Jerry Owens, or Gavin Floyd takes the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxpranos Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 82 with our starting staff. Javy and Mark will do fine, but not great, unless Javy has a breakout year. Danks and the other guy..oh yeah Gavin... they stink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 (edited) Though I often look at individual players through rose colored glasses I cannot do the same for the team as a whole. 81 wins seems just about right for a team with our rotation. If young players like Danks , Floyd, Ramirez, Quentin ,Richar, Fields, Owens and Anderson all prove they can play I see the potential for a much better season. Even better if Uribe, Contreras and Crede come through. Thats 11 players I just named who are total question marks. Then add most of the bullpen since bullpens are always unknowns and we have 60% of the 25 man roster that can possibly implode or explode. More than likely when it comes to young players all we can hope for is roughly a third of them becoming solid Major leaguers this year. In order to win the division I'd say the most important factors are Contreras, Danks and Floyd. If those 3 come through thing change quickly. When you have roughly 14 or 15 players on the roster who can possibly suck its hard to be optimistic. Add in the slowness ,aging and injury factors to players we can actually count on for solid seasons like Thome, Dye and Konerko and I'm actually convincing myself that 81 wins is optimistic. Edited March 28, 2008 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 82 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 I'll say seven fewer wins than the Sox had last year, whatever that total is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaCWS Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 QUOTE(heirdog @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 12:12 PM) 81. We will be average and always lingering in 3rd place in the division, flirting with 2nd so we won't make any drastic trades. In fact, we may trade more young players by July with the hope to catapult us to 2nd place but we will end up with a 3rd place finish about 18 back from Detroit and 8 back of Cleveland. Â Â I agree, we'll be a .500 team. The main reason is the starting pitching. We only have one guy we can truly count on in Buehrle. I think Javy will be fine, but hasn't had back-to-back good seasons in a while. After those two, it's totally up in the air. John Danks is really the key, IMO. If he steps up and becomes a solid #3, we have a legit shot. If not, we're in deep trouble. Contreras is over the hill, and let's face it, Gavin Floyd is not good and never will be, no matter how much we may hope. Â The defense also concerns me, with Swisher in CF. Given the shakiness of the staff, we need Anderson out there, or at least Owens when he's healthy. I can already see the gappers falling before Swisher can get to them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 83 Wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 83-85 wins. Ima go with something that hasnt been said. 2nd place, yes I said it, 2nd place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 QUOTE(greg775 @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 09:54 PM) I'll say seven fewer wins than the Sox had last year, whatever that total is. You think they are going to go 67-95? Â That would be last place in this division, almost certainly. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 We will be Lucky to get 83 wins.I know we will be saying,we should have won more if we just had......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 28, 2008 -> 07:10 AM) You think they are going to go 67-95? That would be last place in this division, almost certainly. If they won 72 and you minus 7, wouldn't that be 65-97? That is what he is predicting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 QUOTE(RME JICO @ Mar 28, 2008 -> 08:54 AM) If they won 72 and you minus 7, wouldn't that be 65-97? That is what he is predicting. Oh yeah, I got my math wrong. More than anything I was just expressing surprise - I haven't heard anyone else say anything as bad as 32 games under .500. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Im going to remain my usual optimistic self and say the Sox go 92-70 and surprise everyone. Slam me if you please, I dont really care to argue, I just would rather hope that they are going to do well than dwell on thinking that they are gonna suck. Â I have a similar feeling to this year that i had in 2005, i dont know whats going to happen, but I dont have a sinking feeling about the season like I did last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 QUOTE(Kenny Hates Prospects @ Mar 27, 2008 -> 07:07 PM) Start at 162 and subtract one for every game Joe Crede, Juan Uribe, Jerry Owens, or Gavin Floyd takes the field. I don't think it's possible to have a negative win total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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