justBLAZE Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 10:06pm: Walt Jocketty on the report: "Wrong. It's not even close." The Reds haven't had talks with the Sox since before Thanksgiving. from MLBtraderumors.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmywins1 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I like it, Bailey used to be the #1 pitching prospect in baseball, if the Reds are dumb enough to trade him for a rental, I'd jump all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 What does everyone think about Mark Grudzielanek? He can be our starting 2B, and he'd probably only cost around $3 million per year for 2 years. Last year, he hit .300 with a .345 OBP. He's a very viable #2 or maybe even a #1 guy. I've never really paid attention to his defense, though. Yes or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 11:10 PM) What does everyone think about Mark Grudzielanek? He can be our starting 2B, and he'd probably only cost around $3 million per year for 2 years. Last year, he hit .300 with a .345 OBP. He's a very viable #2 or maybe even a #1 guy. I've never really paid attention to his defense, though. Yes or no? No reason to create even more of a cluster and hold back the youngsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 08:10 PM) What does everyone think about Mark Grudzielanek? He can be our starting 2B, and he'd probably only cost around $3 million per year for 2 years. Last year, he hit .300 with a .345 OBP. He's a very viable #2 or maybe even a #1 guy. I've never really paid attention to his defense, though. Yes or no? No, I'd like to think that one of Getz, Betemit, Lillebridge, or Nix will be able to give us good production from that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 10:11 PM) No, I'd like to think that one of Getz, Betemit, Lillebridge, or Nix will be able to give us good production from that position. I would, too, but I'd prefer to have a guy in there that we know is going to hit .300 with a solid OBP. Plus, maybe in 2 years, then Nix, Lillebridge, or Getz will be fully ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 If we can get a Dickerson, or another decent Of prospect along with Bailey, I really hope this deal gets done in Vegas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (tommy @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 10:07 PM) 10:06pm: Walt Jocketty on the report: "Wrong. It's not even close." The Reds haven't had talks with the Sox since before Thanksgiving. from MLBtraderumors.com That's a pretty strong denial. JD will be spoken of highly for decades, but Bailey is quite an arm and I just know KW will use JD's money to improve the team with a free agent. I hope the trade goes down this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 If they get Bailey, think of the bullets KW has to ship off for a proven #1 or FA $$$. Manny, Furcal and Peavy/Halladay...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 What does everyone think about Mark Grudzielanek? He can be our starting 2B, and he'd probably only cost around $3 million per year for 2 years. Last year, he hit .300 with a .345 OBP. He's a very viable #2 or maybe even a #1 guy. I've never really paid attention to his defense, though. Yes or no? No, but he's not bad. He gets hurt a lot. He's too old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 10:18 PM) Nix is already 26. He needs to put it together now if he ever wants a shot to be a regular. At this point, Lillibridge and Getz need major league AB's. Getting AB's in AAA isn't really benefiting either player at this point. Getz will start and hold the position. The kid can hit. He's a twins-type hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 10:23 PM) Getz will start and hold the position. The kid can hit. He's a twins-type hitter. Rock, how is Getz on defense? How would you compare his D with that of Iguchi or TCM at 2B? How good is he at turning the DP? Thanks. Edited December 8, 2008 by South Side Fireworks Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmywins1 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 11:27 PM) Rock, how is Getz on defense? How would you compare his D with that of Iguchi or TCM at 2B? Thanks. Getz is solid defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTank Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 10:07 PM) And so was Bailey before like 2007. So why does everyone hate this trade? ^! You have no idea how much I hope this trade happens. I am in LOVE with the idea of Bailey coming to the Southside. He's pitched a total of 81.2 f***ing innings in the Majors! Why does more NEED to be included? We would get Bailey and NOT have to pay Dye's contract. Sounds good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I didn't read back to see if someone set it already but Red's GM claims he hasn't talked to the Sox since before Thanksgiving and this deal is not true. Big J says no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 (edited) I think that entering into spring training; Getz’ll be the clear favorite. That being said, after watching some video of Lillbridge I think he’ll give him a run for his money. As for the, Dye deal I wouldn’t be averse to trying to milk the deal for all it’s worth by including Wasserman or an equivalent arm for another prospect alongside Dye. The Reds are looking for upgrades in the bullpen, and they have a lot of good corner bats coming up that are expendable due to Votto and Alonso. Edited December 8, 2008 by Thunderbolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 What is this? I don't like it one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Soxfest @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 09:18 PM) The trade I understand, but as of today this team will not be in contention for a division title IMO. Name me one team in our division that’s certifiably better than us at the moment. Its one thing to be speculative, but we can’t be overly pessimistic. This is baseball, people age; these moves need to happen sooner or later. If this deal happens it’s for one reason only: to get better immediately and for the future. Edited December 8, 2008 by Thunderbolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Sportscenter reporting it like it's a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 11:18 PM) Sportscenter reporting it like it's a fact. Yeah I heard that too. Pissed me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 One thing about Sportscenter...in order for them to report something, it must be confirmed by at least 2 sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 So it's starting to look as though hall of fame sports writers do receive and run with bad information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTank Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 11:18 PM) Name me one team in our division that’s certifiably better than us at the moment. Its one thing to be speculative, but we can’t be overly pessimistic. This is baseball, people age; these moves need to happen sooner or later. If this deal happens it’s for one reason only: to get better immediately and for the future. With confidence, I could say that the Twins are better than us. They don't have any questions in their rotation like we do. They also have a better outfield of Cuddyer/Young, Gomez, and Span compared to Quentin, Owens/Anderson, and ??? (if Dye is in fact traded). Edited December 8, 2008 by jenks45monster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (jenks45monster @ Dec 7, 2008 -> 11:23 PM) With confidence, I could say that the Twins are better than us. They don't have any questions in their rotation like we do. They also have a better outfield of Cuddyer/Young, Gomez, and Span compared to Quentin, Owens/Anderson, and ??? (if Dye is in fact traded). really? The twins are solid 1-5 rotation, huh? Thats news to me, I'll put our 1-3 against theirs any day of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 8, 2008 -> 01:21 AM) One thing about Sportscenter...in order for them to report something, it must be confirmed by at least 2 sources. I'm not sure what to think now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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