shipps Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Eh...have we(meaning fans) over valued Allen cause this trade would say that we have... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 kenny felt bad about quentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 While I am sad to see Brandon Allen traded... I love Tony Pena's arm. He is a guy who hasn't been consistent, but has absolute electric stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Not a bad reliever. Allen was one of many 1B candidates, probably would have liked him as part of a package for a premere guy, but I think Pena will be good once he gets comfortable here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 08:10 PM) We owe them for TCQ and setting Chris Young up financially for life? lol, the Chris Young contract is totally their own doing. He wasn't batting .196 when we traded him. But yeah this would be about the only logical explanation I can think of right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 The only upside to this is maybe we're going all in w/ another move  We need a bat, dammit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Are we supposed to be excited about this...who the freak is Tony Pena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Well, I would imagine that Phegley and Flowers are going nowhere now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 QUOTE (JDsDirtySox @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 07:10 PM) While I am sad to see Brandon Allen traded... I love Tony Pena's arm. He is a guy who hasn't been consistent, but has absolute electric stuff. Â And the Sox seem to scout the Dbacks pretty well. This seems like a move for 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo's Drinker Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 He has some powerful stuff and will be relatively new to the American League. Â As Heyman says, the Sox are going for it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Here's his career #'s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Pena contract status? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 08:09 PM) Gotta be a move to set up a move. Â It has to be. It doesn't make any sense otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 The only way this makes sense to me is as a long-term move with Dotel gone at the end of the year (if not sooner) and Linebrink's shoulder being completely unreliable. And even then, I'm not seeing the value in Pena. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Like I said.. Brandon Allen they mighta been very down on, even as a prospect. And I personally think he's very overrated here. But to trade him for a reliever (and looking at his stats a very mediore one) is not a good buisness move. Again.. I've NEVER questioned Kenny in deals.. EVER and I'm even counting when J. Reed (my favorite spect at the time) was traded for Freddy cause he was proven, and a very good pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 QUOTE (SHIPPS @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 07:10 PM) Eh...have we(meaning fans) over valued Allen cause this trade would say that we have... What a shocker that would be... us overvaluing our spects... say it isn't so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 League min this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 05:12 PM) Pena contract status? Still currently pre-arb. Tony Pena rhp 1 year/$0.43M (2009) Â * 1 year/$0.43M (2009) o re-signed by Arizona 2/28/09 * 1 year/$0.4055M (2008) o renewed by Arizona 3/9/08 * 1year/$0.381M (2007) * 1 year (2006), re-signed 3/06 * 1 year (2005) * signed 2002 as amateur free agent from the Dominican Republic * previously known as Adriano Rosario * $0.4M signing bonus * ML service: 2.076 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigHurt Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 It has to be. It doesn't make any sense otherwise. Â I've heard that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Hopefully this might turn into a Thornton type deal, though this is a different situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I have the same sick feeling I did when MacDougal was added for Daniel Cortes and Lumsden. Â Yuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 QUOTE (WCSox @ Jul 7, 2009 -> 05:13 PM) The only way this makes sense to me is as a long-term move with Dotel gone at the end of the year (if not sooner) and Linebrink's shoulder being completely unreliable. And even then, I'm not seeing the value in Pena. He has a career 114 ERA+ which is pretty good, and had a ridiculous 144 ERA+ in 2007. Strikes out a fair number, doesn't walk a ton. Decent stuff it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Allen can suck for all I care, but he mighta been a good trade chip for a bigger deal. You never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 This is a terrible deal. WTF? Â Why did they have to trade Brandon Allen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Well, the one thing ive gotta tell myself.... when it comes to LF/1B, if the prospect isnt slated to be a world beater, then he'll probably be a player that could be way more replaceable for a team winning to spend...than perhaps a good reliever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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