beck72 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 SoxNet: Sox Reportedly Ask Yankees About Gardner Supposedly, the Sox were asking the Yanks what it would take to acquire Gardner. http://blogs.suntimes.com/whitesox/2009/12...news_sox_e.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Oh joy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) I like Gardner as a player. Great speed, steller D, but i'm not sure he's a need here. I'd like to have a touch more power in the OF, but he would solve a lot of problems. Lead off, defense, lefty bat... you know what? f*** it. Bring him in. Edited December 11, 2009 by Thunderbolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&T Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Gardner really doesn't have a place with Granderson there. Even more so if Matsui and Damon return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 The Yanks certainly don't need him with Granderson so the asking price can't be outrageous. He has decent upside, and can play solid defense. He's one of the few rookie position players to actually see extended playing time in years. Getting Gardner would allow the sox to spend money both on a DH like Matsui and a bullpen arm like Putz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 .345 OBP, 26 SBs in basically half a season? Sounds alright to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Realistically, what would it take to get him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I think the question is what could the Sox offer back. The Yankees are pretty much set at every position, so most position prospects are out. The Sox aren't exactly stacked with pitching prospects either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Sox Interested in Yanks Gardner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Interesting. The Yankees clearly don't have a need for Gardner but I'm wondering what the Sox plans would be for him. He's tremendously fast and a solid defensive outfielder who would be cheap and under the teams control for a few years. I don't know if he could start or how he'd do given serious at-bats but for the right price it could be an intriguing depth option. I'd be curious what the Sox scouts saw in him, if they thought he is the type of guy that is a true sleeper and will get better of if they look at him more as a quality bench player. Ozzie has to love the 26 steals vs 5 stolen bases in limited action last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWhiteSoxinNJ Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 we need a face palm smiley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 It is an outside of the box kind of idea and you got to like the idea of a cheap outfielder, who is a great base-runner, had a decent OBP in his 2nd season in the bigs, and would provide the club with pretty damn good defense. I wonder what it would cost cause clearly the Yanks don't have a need at any particular areas. Would it be Brett Morel or a group of lesser prospects? Would you trade Morel for Gardner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 White Sox Reportedly Ask Yankees About Gardner SN Take This is a good fit. You'd have to think he's available, as there would be little reason for the Yanks keep him around with Granderson set to roam center. And with the Sox having zero viable in-house options to bat lead-off, Gardner makes sense. The asking price means a lot, but I can't see the Yankees asking a whole lot for a 26-year-old that served primarily as a bench player, especially if this report is accurate and the Royals are the only other team expressing interest. Chances are the Royals inquire about every young, cheap, average to slightly above average ballplayer. You'd have to think the Sox have the edge. Were the Sox to pull off a trade, Gardner would immediately take center and serve as the leadoff hitter, with Alex Rios moving over to right. That'll leave them one player away (LF/DH) from having a somewhat realistic opening day lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I like Gardner, but if you get him to play CF, you better find someone with good power to be our DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 1. Gardner - CF 2. Beckham - 2B 3. Quentin - LF 4. Matsui - DH 5. Konerko - 1B 6. Pierzynski - C 7. Rios - RF 8. Teahen - 3B 9. Ramirez - SS Yeah, that looks right. Get that done. Sign Putz too and were all set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 10, 2009 -> 05:53 PM) I like Gardner, but if you get him to play CF, you better find someone with good power to be our DH. Think of it this way, Gardner in CF, means the Sox spent very little to cover the CF spot, which means they have more money to go after a quality DH. I think the Sox will be working hard to get Jerry to expand the bank a bit so they can ink Matsui and than work on bringing over Japanese advertisers. Matsui is 100 times the icon that Shingo/Iguchi were in Japan and there should be a lot of money to be made having him on our club for a year or two or three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 10, 2009 -> 08:45 PM) Would you trade Morel for Gardner. With the Teahen deal and Viciedo in the wings. Yeah, i think i would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) Gardner as an occassional starter, a pinch runner and a defensive replacement sounds pretty good. Brett Gardner every day leadoff man is pretty, pretty, sad. And those penciling in Putz as a lights out reliever haven't been paying attention. He is auditioning for teams. They still don't know if he can throw 70 MPH. Edited December 11, 2009 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 10, 2009 -> 07:59 PM) With the Teahen deal and Viciedo in the wings. Yeah, i think i would. I still don't think Viciedo is gonna be a viable option at 3B. He'll be a LF I think via the Carlos Lee mode... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 If we are going the Yankees discarded outfielder route, I'd rather Melky. I like them both more than Pods though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 10, 2009 -> 08:01 PM) Gardner as an occassional starter, a pinch runner and a defensive replacement sounds pretty good. Brett Gardner every day leadoff man is pretty, pretty, sad. And those penciling in Putz as a lights out reliever haven't been paying attention. He is auditioning for teams. They still don't know if he can throw 70 MPH. I'm not claiming to be the foremost expert on Brett Gardner, but what makes you say he can't leadoff for the White Sox? He just may need the opportunity he didn't have with the Yankees. His minor league career was pretty good. He has plus speed, plus defense, and he can take a walk. I think it's worth a shot especially when you have some guys on the bench like Kotsay and Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 A career .389 OBP in the minors isn't bad. .414 in AAA in 2008 before getting called up to the Yanks. He won't hit for power, but tons of speed and based upon the stats a pretty advanced eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 10, 2009 -> 08:10 PM) A career .389 OBP in the minors isn't bad. .414 in AAA in 2008 before getting called up to the Yanks. He won't hit for power, but tons of speed and based upon the stats a pretty advanced eye. I figure Gardner is about the level of Willie Harris offensively with less power,but makes more contact.He might get on a little more. Fine for the bench, but the ignitor of your offense, you won't have a top of the line offense. He's worth acquiring as long as you don't put too much on him. Edited December 11, 2009 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 No way do I trade Morel for Gardner. I am okay with trying to acquire him... but Morel is a guy I want to hang on to. I really like his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 If Rios isn't in center field he has next to no value. Certainly not at 10 mil a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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