supernuke Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 If Rios shows anything in ST I think it will look something like this. LF Pierre CF Rios RF Quentin 1B Konerko C AJP 2B Beckham DH Jones/Kotsay SS Ramirez 3B Teahen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 QUOTE (scotty22hotty @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 02:01 PM) Acquire Johnson for DH Trade Quentin for Bradley(+$11M) & Marmol Pierre Beckham Johnson Konerko Bradley Rios AJ Alexei Teahan *sound of screeching tires* huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 QUOTE (bad at best @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 12:19 PM) i hate the idea of ramirez in the 2 hole. reminds me of when people thought juan uribe would be "great!" in the 2 hole. neither have ANY plate discipline and both are poor/average baserunners. Alexei Ramirez in the 2 hole last season... .281/.343/.422/.765 That looks like plate discipline and a bit of power. I'd be perfectly fine with that in the 2-hole. I also don't think people realize that Ramirez walked 49 times last year. He wasn't that undisciplined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 12:49 PM) I got a feeling that when the dust settles, we'll see Milton Bradley DH'ing. You had better take that feeling out to the woodshed and beat it into submission... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 QUOTE (scotty22hotty @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 02:01 PM) Acquire Johnson for DH Trade Quentin for Bradley(+$11M) & Marmol Pierre Beckham Johnson Konerko Bradley Rios AJ Alexei Teahan You had better keep drinking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 QUOTE (scotty22hotty @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 02:01 PM) Trade Quentin for Bradley(+$11M) & Marmol You sure you're a Sox fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 12:32 PM) Alexei Ramirez in the 2 hole last season... .281/.343/.422/.765 That looks like plate discipline and a bit of power. I'd be perfectly fine with that in the 2-hole. I also don't think people realize that Ramirez walked 49 times last year. He wasn't that undisciplined. While Alexei's power numbers went down last year, his walks and OBP improved significantly. I wouldn't mind him in the two-hole at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyuen Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 QUOTE (scotty22hotty @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 02:01 PM) Acquire Johnson for DH Trade Quentin for Bradley(+$11M) & Marmol Pierre Beckham Johnson Konerko Bradley Rios AJ Alexei Teahan you talking nick johnson? dude is not a #3 with the nationals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Pierre LF Beckham 2B DH signing (IT WILL HAPPEN!) Quentin RF Konerko 1B Pierzynski C Rios CF Ramirez SS Teahan 3B Bench: Kotsay 1B/OF, Jones 4th OF, Vizquel INF, Nix INF/Pinch Runner, Veteran Backup C signing, Rotation: Peavy, Buerhle, Floyd, Danks, Garcia Bullpen: Jenks CL, Thorton SU, Putz SU, Linebrink MR, Pena MR, Hudson LR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Mario, having Rios batting 3rd may be the most optimistic thing i've read all year. If he earns that spot....yowza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 As of right now... 1. Pierre, LF 2. Beckham, 2B 3. Quentin, RF 4. Konerko, 1B 5. Pierzynski, C 6. Rios, CF 7. Ramirez, SS 8. Kotsay/Jones, DH 9. Teahen, 3B What Ozzie wants.. (again as of right now) 1. Pierre, LF 2. Ramirez, SS 3. Quentin, RF 4. Konerko, 1B 5. Pierzynski, C 6. Beckham, 2B 7. Rios, CF 8. Kotsay/Jones, DH (if we get someone else.. he'll be hitting cleanup) 9. Teahen, 3B He wants Beckham hitting alot lower which is what NSS was saying, though Rios will not sniff hitting 8th-9th in the lineup (Ozzie doesn't want a 10 mil player hitting low in his lineup) and even 7th is a stretch for me (I see Alex hitting 6th, though if he has a good spring.. 5th). Hopefully A.J. hits lower which is beneficial to him and the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Using the Bill James 2010 projections and Pinto's lineup analysis tool i have a lineup of Pierre, Beckham, Q, Konerko, Jones, Rios, AJ, Ramirez, and Teahen pegged for 5.057 Runs per game. The site seems to think our optimal lineup would be good for about 5.157 runs and would be Beckham, Konerko, Ramirez, Q, Rios, Teahen, Jones, A.J., Pierre. Regardless, we really do need a bigger bat in the middle of our lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 04:54 PM) Using the Bill James 2010 projections and Pinto's lineup analysis tool i have a lineup of Pierre, Beckham, Q, Konerko, Jones, Rios, AJ, Ramirez, and Teahen pegged for 5.057 Runs per game. The site seems to think our optimal lineup would be good for about 5.157 runs and would be Beckham, Konerko, Ramirez, Q, Rios, Teahen, Jones, A.J., Pierre. Regardless, we really do need a bigger bat in the middle of our lineup. Interesting stuff, indeed! Paulie in the 2-hole would be great! TBolt, does this Pinto thing take into account footspeed? Or just their offensive numbers basically? I do like the sound of 5.157 runs a game though. One would think with this pitching staff, we should win a lot of games when we score 5 runs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 05:08 PM) Interesting stuff, indeed! Paulie in the 2-hole would be great! TBolt, does this Pinto thing take into account footspeed? Or just their offensive numbers basically? I do like the sound of 5.157 runs a game though. One would think with this pitching staff, we should win a lot of games when we score 5 runs... It only weighs .OPA, and .SLG. I’m not sure if there’s any metric sophisticated enough to really factor in foot speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrlesque Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 QUOTE (whitesox901 @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 01:10 PM) Pierre Beckham Quentin Left Handed Power Hitter Konerko Rios Pierzynksi Ramirez Teahen This is the closest to what I see happening. I wouldn't be surprised if Ozzie flips Ramirez and Teahen either. By the way, am I the only one who can't stand thought of AJ hitting anyplace 3rd thru 5th in the line up? I know most people put him there by default because there's no one better and he hits left-handed, but ickkkk. He's gotta be hitting 7th or lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Pierre Beckham Quentin DH (probably a Thome/Andruw Jones platoon) PK Pierzynski Rios Teahen Ramirez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 05:36 PM) I personally have: Pierre Beckham Quentin Konerko Teahen Ramirez AJP Rios Kotsay/Jones/Vizquel And no, I certainly hope that isn't our opening day lineup, but based upon what the club currently has on the roster, that is what mine would be. Only debate in my eyes would be flipping Rios and Ramirez. Do you think Beckham might hit lower? Ozzie wants him to have RBI opportunities. I don't know who I would have hit second maybe Ramirez or Teahan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Pierre Beckham Quentin Konerko Jones Rios Pierzynski Ramirez Teahen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 1. Pierre 2. Rios (come on guys i highly doubt he puts up the numbers he did for us again, theres no reason to believe that) 3. TCQ 4, Kong 5. Jones ( i have a feeling he takes the job out right) 6. Beckham 7. AJP 8. Lexi 9. Teahen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 06:51 PM) 1. Pierre 2. Rios (come on guys i highly doubt he puts up the numbers he did for us again, theres no reason to believe that) 3. TCQ 4, Kong 5. Jones ( i have a feeling he takes the job out right) 6. Beckham 7. AJP 8. Lexi 9. Teahen If he can prove to be the .290-40 double or so hitter he was, Rios would be a pretty awesome #2 hitter with the gap power he's got. I'm not holding my breath though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Dec 17, 2009 -> 08:56 PM) If he can prove to be the .290-40 double or so hitter he was, Rios would be a pretty awesome #2 hitter with the gap power he's got. I'm not holding my breath though. rightfully so butt i see no reason why he cant be that guy, hes not old nor do i think he juiced so theres no reason why he cant be what he once was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 If Oz wants Beckham to have RBI opportunities he should bat him third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Damon DH Beckham 2B Quentin RF Konerko 1B Rios CF AJP C Teahen 3B Alexei SS Pierre LF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 18, 2009 -> 03:46 PM) Damon DH Beckham 2B Quentin RF Konerko 1B Rios CF AJP C Teahen 3B Alexei SS Pierre LF Congrats Rock on making this place damontalk.com for the next day or so. I also can't see Ozzie not having Pierre leadoff. If anything, Damon would be batting 3rd. For the amount of money he's likely asking for, you might be better off going after more of a slugging type of outfielder (and I know Damon hit a lot of homers last year, but that park was perfect for him). Edited December 18, 2009 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 They've done so much in Sox uniforms, and I know our options are limited, but while perusing these potential lineups, anybody else shiver seeing the old, slow clunkers PK & AJP back to back in the middle of the lineup again??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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