The Ginger Kid Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I belive it's my first gamethread of the season. Let it be the first of 10 in a row. Jake will drink to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 15, 2010 -> 10:53 AM) I belive it's my first gamethread of the season. Let it be the first of 10 in a row. Jake will drink to that! had some of that yesterday with monster, awesome lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Blah... what's the use? The twins are going to be 10 up soon. Sit the vets and bring the kids up. We might find something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Who are the most likely to be dealt soon?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ May 15, 2010 -> 01:22 PM) Who are the most likely to be dealt soon?? A.J before his no trade kicks in, then Paulie then Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 package Burls and Teahen to St. Louis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 Twinkies folding in the Bronx again. Texiera A-Rod Cano How many times can you go through that unscathed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Pierre LF Beckham 2B Jones RF Konerko DH Rios CF Kotsay 1B Ramirez SS Teahen 3B Castro C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ May 15, 2010 -> 02:30 PM) Pierre LF Beckham 2B Jones RF Konerko DH Rios CF Kotsay 1B Ramirez SS Teahen 3B Castro C Beckham got his slot back quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 The last 5 times the Sox started the season 14-21 per Gonzalez: 1983 99-63 First place, AL West 1987 77-85 Fifth place, AL West 1995 68-76 Fifth place, AL Central 1997 80-81 Second place, AL Central 2001 83-79 Third place, AL Central Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 15, 2010 -> 03:33 PM) Beckham got his slot back quickly. Ozzie would be a terrible scout master. Everyone gets a merit badge, regardless of merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 (edited) Ozzie would be a terrible scout master. Everyone gets a merit badge, regardless of merit. Who do you want to bat second? And how that would it matter ultimately when out of these nine players six are currently sucking? You tell me how to best optimize this lineup tonight? Why not Beckham second in the order? Of these players in the lineup, Pierre (even though he's had some hits in May), Kotsay, Ramirez, teahen, Castro and Beckham all currently suck. Good luck with a lineup. Somebody has to bat second. Edited May 15, 2010 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Hochevar is the perfect opponent for the Sox today. He either wins the game himself or loses it himself.... so it doesn't matter how bad our lineup is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 15, 2010 -> 03:52 PM) Who do you want to bat second? And how that would it matter ultimately when out of these nine players six are currently sucking? You tell me how to best optimize this lineup tonight? Why not Beckham second in the order? Of these players in the lineup, Pierre (even though he's had some hits in May), Kotsay, Ramirez, teahen, Castro and Beckham all currently suck. Good luck with a lineup. Somebody has to bat second. Beckham isn't hitting at all. Are you really going to tell me that giving him the second most at-bats out of anyone on this ballclub is optimizing the teams chances to win? It's not. We have a bad sitiuation, and Ozzie is making the worst of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I'm saying six of the nine hitters suck. OK let's play. Who do you want second? My guess is you still want Pierre first even though he sucks (he's had some hits in May), so let's play. With these nine guys lets bat our best players first Pierre, Rios, Jones, Konerko, Ramirez, Kotsay, Teahen, Beckham, Castro. Is that any better? No it also sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 15, 2010 -> 03:57 PM) Beckham isn't hitting at all. Are you really going to tell me that giving him the second most at-bats out of anyone on this ballclub is optimizing the teams chances to win? It's not. We have a bad sitiuation, and Ozzie is making the worst of it. Beckham has gotten a couple hits the last few days. Hopefully it's a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmbjeff Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 15, 2010 -> 02:57 PM) Beckham isn't hitting at all. Are you really going to tell me that giving him the second most at-bats out of anyone on this ballclub is optimizing the teams chances to win? It's not. We have a bad sitiuation, and Ozzie is making the worst of it. In all fairness, Beckham did have 2 hits yesterday. Ozzie may feel the drop in order helped restore some confidence. This lineup is still horses***. I want Flowers up. Let him split time between DH/C. We need a shot in the arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 15, 2010 -> 03:52 PM) Of these players in the lineup, Pierre (even though he's had some hits in May), He's hitting .347 in May and .438 in his last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro2525 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 QUOTE (dmbjeff @ May 15, 2010 -> 03:23 PM) In all fairness, Beckham did have 2 hits yesterday. Ozzie may feel the drop in order helped restore some confidence. This lineup is still horses***. I want Flowers up. Let him split time between DH/C. We need a shot in the arm. I think they took his infield hit away and made it an E-4...so only one hit for Becks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 15, 2010 -> 02:33 PM) The last 5 times the Sox started the season 14-21 per Gonzalez: 1983 99-63 First place, AL West 1987 77-85 Fifth place, AL West 1995 68-76 Fifth place, AL Central 1997 80-81 Second place, AL Central 2001 83-79 Third place, AL Central I think that 2001 team actually would go into an 8 game losing streak from that point, pretty sure they reached bottom at 14-29 or something very close to that, then made it all the back to 6 or 8 games over .500. The 1997 and 2001 teams are good examples of teams with very high expectations entering the season (Belle signed as FA, David Wells and coming off the playoff appearance in 2000) that are quite comparable to our current situation. Although I can honestly say I don't EXPECT that this team will get to 6-7-8 games over .500. MAYBE.... Edited May 15, 2010 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 He's hitting .347 in May and .438 in his last week. I know he's had a good May. I pointed that out while still saying he and his pitty pat bat sucks. He's on pace for about 15 RBIs this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 15, 2010 -> 04:26 PM) I know he's had a good May. I pointed that out while still saying he and his pitty pat bat sucks. He's on pace for about 15 RBIs this year. If one of our biggest concerns, is driving in runs from the leadoff spot, we have FAR bigger issues. I don't care if Pierre drives in 10 runs all year, as long as he is hitting and getting on base. Let those whose job it is to drive runs in, do their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 QUOTE (Capn12 @ May 15, 2010 -> 03:42 PM) If one of our biggest concerns, is driving in runs from the leadoff spot, we have FAR bigger issues. I don't care if Pierre drives in 10 runs all year, as long as he is hitting and getting on base. Let those whose job it is to drive runs in, do their job. Juan Pierre has the second most ABs with RISP on the club, it's pretty ridiculous to be ok with him not driving any of those runs in just because he happens to hit atop the lineup. As a high average hitter he needs to be picking up hits in those situations same as anyone else in the lineup, it's simply unacceptable that he's 4 for 29 in RBI opportunities, that's WAY too many wasted opportunities. Given that he gets the most PA on the team he's going to get plenty of late inning RBI opportunities and he doesn't deserve a free pass in those situations just because he's a punch and judy hitter or a "table setter". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 QUOTE (Kalapse @ May 15, 2010 -> 02:50 PM) Juan Pierre has the second most ABs with RISP on the club, it's pretty ridiculous to be ok with him not driving any of those runs in just because he happens to hit atop the lineup, as a high average hitter he needs to be picking up hits in those situations same as anyone else in the lineup, it's simply unacceptable that he's 4 for 29 in RBI opportunities, that's WAY too many wasted opportunities. Given that he gets the most PA on the team he's going to get plenty of late inning RBI opportunities and he doesn't deserve a free pass in those situations just because he's a punch and judy hitter or a "table setter". Exactly. You can tell that to thw Twins how valuable Denard Span is not only hitting lead-off, but hitting with RISP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Seems to me we have a few people who fall into the "I'm a s***ty hitter with RISP this year." category. No one is saying Pierre should have a "free pass" in those situations whatsoever. What I AM saying, is that I can live with him not being a top RBI guy at the top if he is getting on base, and those behind him are doing their jobs, a la driving runs in. Right now he sucks almost more than anyone with RISP (Hi, Gordon!). That obviously has to improve. But not his major need in this lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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