IlliniKrush Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 QUOTE (dasox24 @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 02:16 PM) What do you not get about what I'm saying? For the 2nd time, I never said the kid should lie to the NCAA. But, what is "sketchy" is how the picture came out - no one on Tennessee's side took it. Therefore, it was Craft's picture and he (or his Dad) turned it into the NCAA. That's low. Just go to OSU and do your thing. Don't try to get another school in trouble. He's like the tattle-tale everyone hates in grade school. It looks like he went out of his way to tell the NCAA about his illegal visit. Let's say the picture was some random person's and the NCAA discovered it somehow. Then, if the NCAA came to him and asked about the picture, I wouldn't expect him to lie. But that doesn't seem to be the case based on what we know right now. The irony here is just awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 11:54 PM) The irony here is just awesome. gregg doyel just giggled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 11:54 PM) The irony here is just awesome. I literally LOL'd as I read that post. That guy (and the people at Tennessee) must not know the history of Bruce Pearl very well. Karma is a b****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 30, 2010 -> 08:28 PM) I literally LOL'd as I read that post. That guy (and the people at Tennessee) must not know the history of Bruce Pearl very well. Karma is a b****. That guy? I guess you mean me... Well, I think it's documented in previous posts that I do know the history since I grew up a huge Illinois fan (I probably know more about that football/basketball programs than most around here, including yourself). Quite honestly, all of my 7 uncles never let an opportunity pass to talk s*** about Bruce Pearl to me and how he majorly set-back the Illinois program that was on the verge of becoming great. Furthermore, a lot of Tennessee fans do know about the Pearl-Illinois thing - at least all of my friends do and many others I've talked to. And while I admit that Pearl is sleazy (I've never argued against it), he's also my coach. So, yeah, I support him. Plus, he just wins. Actually, since Pearl was hired at UT, they've been a more successful basketball team than Illinois. Considering UT is a football school that has never really had an continued success in basketball, that's even more impressive. Anyway, I got off-track there a bit... So, I stand by my original point in that I think the kid who likely turned us in to the NCAA is a b**** if he really did it. What Pearl did to Illinois 20 years ago was also a b**** move. Still, if Craft went to the NCAA about an illegal visit to Pearl's house (and I still think it looks pretty likely he was involved), it was incredibly immature and unnecessary. I can't even begin to list all the illegal recruiting that goes on at every school when they have recruits visit. And when a kid finally signs with a school, he doesn't rat out other schools that recruited him. You just don't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (dasox24 @ Sep 30, 2010 -> 11:40 PM) That guy? I guess you mean me... Well, I think it's documented in previous posts that I do know the history since I grew up a huge Illinois fan (I probably know more about that football/basketball programs than most around here, including yourself). Quite honestly, all of my 7 uncles never let an opportunity pass to talk s*** about Bruce Pearl to me and how he majorly set-back the Illinois program that was on the verge of becoming great. Furthermore, a lot of Tennessee fans do know about the Pearl-Illinois thing - at least all of my friends do and many others I've talked to. And while I admit that Pearl is sleazy (I've never argued against it), he's also my coach. So, yeah, I support him. Plus, he just wins. Actually, since Pearl was hired at UT, they've been a more successful basketball team than Illinois. Considering UT is a football school that has never really had an continued success in basketball, that's even more impressive. Anyway, I got off-track there a bit... So, I stand by my original point in that I think the kid who likely turned us in to the NCAA is a b**** if he really did it. What Pearl did to Illinois 20 years ago was also a b**** move. Still, if Craft went to the NCAA about an illegal visit to Pearl's house (and I still think it looks pretty likely he was involved), it was incredibly immature and unnecessary. I can't even begin to list all the illegal recruiting that goes on at every school when they have recruits visit. And when a kid finally signs with a school, he doesn't rat out other schools that recruited him. You just don't do that. Bold point 1: Wrong. Bold point 2: At least you realize it. I just don't get calling out a kid for being a b**** when his coach was a b**** as a grown man. It's pretty hypocritical to still support Pearl while you seem to hate the kid. But that's how fans are. Edited October 1, 2010 by whitesoxfan101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 30, 2010 -> 11:27 PM) Bold point 1: Wrong. Bold point 2: At least you realize it. I just don't get calling out a kid for being a b**** when his coach was a b**** as a grown man. It's pretty hypocritical to still support Pearl while you seem to hate the kid. But that's how fans are. Point 1: Ha, you may be right, especially now b/c I half-ass follow Illinois. But, I'll tell what: I had the Illinois Rivals account, read all the Illinois message boards, etc. for years as a kid. I would match my Illinois sports knowledge over the last 20 years with most Point 2: The bolded point pretty much sums it up. While it is karma for this to happen to Pearl, I still hate that it did... particularly if we get some sort of post-season ban considering the recent success we've had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I am really excited for Mizzou basketball this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 QUOTE (dasox24 @ Sep 30, 2010 -> 11:40 PM) That guy? I guess you mean me... Well, I think it's documented in previous posts that I do know the history since I grew up a huge Illinois fan (I probably know more about that football/basketball programs than most around here, including yourself). Quite honestly, all of my 7 uncles never let an opportunity pass to talk s*** about Bruce Pearl to me and how he majorly set-back the Illinois program that was on the verge of becoming great. Furthermore, a lot of Tennessee fans do know about the Pearl-Illinois thing - at least all of my friends do and many others I've talked to. And while I admit that Pearl is sleazy (I've never argued against it), he's also my coach. So, yeah, I support him. Plus, he just wins. Actually, since Pearl was hired at UT, they've been a more successful basketball team than Illinois. Considering UT is a football school that has never really had an continued success in basketball, that's even more impressive. Anyway, I got off-track there a bit... So, I stand by my original point in that I think the kid who likely turned us in to the NCAA is a b**** if he really did it. What Pearl did to Illinois 20 years ago was also a b**** move. Still, if Craft went to the NCAA about an illegal visit to Pearl's house (and I still think it looks pretty likely he was involved), it was incredibly immature and unnecessary. I can't even begin to list all the illegal recruiting that goes on at every school when they have recruits visit. And when a kid finally signs with a school, he doesn't rat out other schools that recruited him. You just don't do that. You are setting an awfully interesting standard here. It seems there is no line that can be crossed since he's "your coach." What if he paid every recruit a million dollars, or something even more ridiculous? I mean, he's your coach, after all. There's nothing wrong with rooting for your team/school/program and not being supportive of the head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Oct 4, 2010 -> 04:53 PM) You are setting an awfully interesting standard here. It seems there is no line that can be crossed since he's "your coach." What if he paid every recruit a million dollars, or something even more ridiculous? I mean, he's your coach, after all. There's nothing wrong with rooting for your team/school/program and not being supportive of the head coach. Um, not really. I don't think being sleazy is a reason to not be supportive of a coach. Has Pearl done some shady things in his career? Sure. But if he was caught paying players a million dollars, then yeah, he should be fired. Was it a shady thing to have recruits over to his house on unofficial visits? Yes. Is that reason enough to not support him as my coach? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 SIU not holding Maroon Madness this year. Odd. Maybe they want to wait to unveil the new arena to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 QUOTE (dasox24 @ Oct 4, 2010 -> 06:57 PM) Um, not really. I don't think being sleazy is a reason to not be supportive of a coach. Has Pearl done some shady things in his career? Sure. But if he was caught paying players a million dollars, then yeah, he should be fired. Was it a shady thing to have recruits over to his house on unofficial visits? Yes. Is that reason enough to not support him as my coach? No. You aren't the guy at the gym wearing the fancy-looking Sox hat are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 5, 2010 -> 11:21 AM) You aren't the guy at the gym wearing the fancy-looking Sox hat are you? Nope... I actually don't own a Sox hat, surprisingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 QUOTE (Brian @ Oct 4, 2010 -> 06:35 PM) SIU not holding Maroon Madness this year. Odd. Maybe they want to wait to unveil the new arena to the public. They're most likely not doing it because they know the attendance would be horrendous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Oct 4, 2010 -> 05:53 PM) There's nothing wrong with rooting for your team/school/program and not being supportive of the head coach. Ding ding ding. I couldn't stand Sampson my freshman year, and refused to cheer along with everyone else when he was announced at each game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Wisconsin Milwaukee reported recruiting violation on Pearl in '04 for having a player over his house. Still can't believe it's not a bigger story right now. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5648545 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Rumors all over the internet that Pearl will resign tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 This is karma all the way for Pearl. It's sad though, that he has to cheat to win the Horizon League. It's the damn Horizon League for god's sake and you didn't even believe in yourself to get the job there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Oct 11, 2010 -> 02:08 PM) This is karma all the way for Pearl. It's sad though, that he has to cheat to win the Horizon League. It's the damn Horizon League for god's sake and you didn't even believe in yourself to get the job there? Its the same reason athletes cheat. They want the big money, and they don't want to put the same time and effort into earning it. Coaches who cheat aren't any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 There's a rumor from a well-placed Illinois source on their rivals page about how some former SIU players are going to talk to the media and/or NCAA in an effort to get the program in trouble. Rowand and company, are you guys hearing anything about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 13, 2010 Author Share Posted October 13, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 13, 2010 -> 11:19 AM) There's a rumor from a well-placed Illinois source on their rivals page about how some former SIU players are going to talk to the media and/or NCAA in an effort to get the program in trouble. Rowand and company, are you guys hearing anything about this? Not me, but if it put the nail in CLo's coffin, I wouldn't mind it. Probably Dillard and Booker, I'm guessing? Can't believe how bad CLo has ran the program down. Not sure what business it is of Illinois though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 QUOTE (Brian @ Oct 13, 2010 -> 11:50 AM) Not me, but if it put the nail in CLo's coffin, I wouldn't mind it. Probably Dillard and Booker, I'm guessing? Can't believe how bad CLo has ran the program down. Not sure what business it is of Illinois though. It has nothing to do with Illinois. One of the rivals guys posted that he heard rumblings that the NCAA was looking into Baylor and the other one posted he heard a couple of former players weren't happy with what went down at SIU and might talk to the NCAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He_Gawn Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Baylor and POS Scott Drew finally getting caught.... http://msn.foxsports.com/collegebasketball...sketball-101210 "I guarantee u if he does [commit to another school] he will be in Colombia for the spring and summer and next year. Don’t forget it,” the text said. That other school would be Indiana, and this may just push the 5 star forward to the Hoosiers once and for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Hopefully they sink back to the bottom of the Big 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonik22 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 13, 2010 -> 11:19 AM) There's a rumor from a well-placed Illinois source on their rivals page about how some former SIU players are going to talk to the media and/or NCAA in an effort to get the program in trouble. Rowand and company, are you guys hearing anything about this? I haven't heard anything and I haven't seen it on salukitalk so we will see what happens. If it's dillard and Booker they can go f*** themselves. They've done nothing to hurt the program to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 13, 2010 -> 10:19 AM) There's a rumor from a well-placed Illinois source on their rivals page about how some former SIU players are going to talk to the media and/or NCAA in an effort to get the program in trouble. Rowand and company, are you guys hearing anything about this? No. But I'm no longer living in Carbondale and don't have my connection in the athletic office anymore, so I don't hear as much as I used to. But nothing on the message boards at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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