Milkman delivers Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I love that attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Swarzak looked like a really solid pitcher from what I saw of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 High school teammate Zach Putnam has been called up by the Indians. Good luck Zach, except v.s the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) I'd say Alex Gordon has CPOTY wrapped up. Tremendous season for him. Michael Morse would have to be the NL favorite. Edited September 14, 2011 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 08:56 PM) I'd say Alex Gordon has CPOTY wrapped up. Tremendous season for him. Michael Morse would have to be the NL favorite. How is that a comeback? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 07:58 PM) How is that a comeback? Â You read my mind Balta. What did Gordon come back from? Being bad? Also, this is Morse's full season in the majors, his injuries were back in the minor league days, I don't think that's much of a comeback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 07:58 PM) How is that a comeback? Â Â QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 08:01 PM) You read my mind Balta. What did Gordon come back from? Being bad? Also, this is Morse's full season in the majors, his injuries were back in the minor league days, I don't think that's much of a comeback. Â Last time I checked, guys don't win the award after winning the MVP or making the all-star team the previous year. Liriano, Giambi, Lee, Lidge, etc., have won the award in the past for, well, sucking ass or doing next to nothing of significance the prior year. If Gordon/Morse aren't worthy, who the hell is? Edited September 14, 2011 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 09:14 PM) Last time I checked, guys don't win the award after winning the MVP or making the all-star team the previous year. Liriano, Giambi, Lee, Lidge, etc., have won the award in the past for, well, sucking ass or doing next to nothing of significance the prior year. If Gordon/Morse aren't worthy, who the hell is? Â But those guys had actually done something in the major leagues before that. Gordon and Morse were just crap since their rookie seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 10:16 PM) But those guys had actually done something in the major leagues before that. Gordon and Morse were just crap since their rookie seasons. Â Well by that criteria, I agree. Been good, fell off the map for whatever reason, comeback. I've always looked at the award as the NBA's version of the most improved player. Maybe baseball should implement something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 10:21 PM) Well by that criteria, I agree. Been good, fell off the map for whatever reason, comeback. I've always looked at the award as the NBA's version of the most improved player. Maybe baseball should implement something like that.  I mean, that is the name of the award and all  But you're right, they've given it to players before that never did anything prior to receiving it. I guess it's the same difference between being the Most Valuable Player or just the flat-out best player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 10:33 PM) I mean, that is the name of the award and all  But you're right, they've given it to players before that never did anything prior to receiving it. I guess it's the same difference between being the Most Valuable Player or just the flat-out best player.  I meant if that's the only criteria. Having to have had prior success before experiencing a down year or two. I look(ed) at it as a player that had virtually no success in the big leagues prior to having that breakout season as well. I don't think people realize how good Alex Gordon has been this year. Arguably the second best LF in baseball after that Braun character. Edited September 14, 2011 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 13, 2011 -> 10:56 PM) I meant if that's the only criteria. Having to have had prior success before experiencing a down year or two. I look(ed) at it as a player that had virtually no success in the big leagues prior to having that breakout season as well. I don't think people realize how good Alex Gordon has been this year. Arguably the second best LF in baseball after that Braun character. Â Do they have a breakout player of the year award? That might solve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (Benchwarmerjim @ Sep 10, 2011 -> 04:11 PM) it might be a long year next year for the Twins. They are starting 2 AA players (Joe Benson and Chris Parmelee) and another AA pitcher (Liam Hendricks) there is no depth at AAA and a lot of the stud players (Miguel Sano) are still in the lower class levels Remember when last year nearly everyone here at ST were raving about how the Twins were in great position to keep dominating the AL Central? Â That was funny... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I was not a believer in the Tigers at all, but they have really picked the right time to get hot. Runs like this can easily propel them into the Series... Â I won't like it at all, but you'd have to give it to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Heard on the radio today that Verlander is the 4th pitcher to win 23 games and throw a no hitter in the same season. Any guesses on who else has done it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I'm starting to think Verlander is on PEDs. Since when did he throw 101? He threw 97-98 max when he first came up in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 07:35 AM) Remember when last year nearly everyone here at ST were raving about how the Twins were in great position to keep dominating the AL Central? That was funny...  There's an outside chance they could lose 100 games this season, they're at 89 right now with 14 games to go. Still an outside chance but maybe...They've lost 9 in a row a few times this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 15, 2011 Author Share Posted September 15, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 08:56 PM) I'm starting to think Verlander is on PEDs. Since when did he throw 101? He threw 97-98 max when he first came up in the majors. Pitch fx has had him at about an average velocity of 95 since he came up, and in 06-07 he'd occasionally top 100. He had a yer in 08 where he didn't hit 100 then he brought it back. 08 was also his worst season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 08:20 PM) Pitch fx has had him at about an average velocity of 95 since he came up, and in 06-07 he'd occasionally top 100. He had a yer in 08 where he didn't hit 100 then he brought it back. 08 was also his worst season. Â He either had dead arm in 08 or stopped doing what he did before that. I'm not sure how long he can sustain throwing 100 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Sep 14, 2011 -> 09:35 AM) Remember when last year nearly everyone here at ST were raving about how the Twins were in great position to keep dominating the AL Central? That was funny...  It'd be a lot funnier if we weren't primed to finish 15+ games out of 1st place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 JoeCStrib JoeChristensen by Buster_ESPN Final: #Royals 7, #Twins 3. Minnesota goes 0-5 on this road trip and is now 9-33 in its past 42 games. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 15, 2011 Author Share Posted September 15, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 15, 2011 -> 01:30 AM) It'd be a lot funnier if we weren't primed to finish 15+ games out of 1st place. It'd be a lot less funny if we didn't have the exact same effect happening regarding the invincible Tigers and their upcoming 18 year division crown run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 15, 2011 -> 07:52 AM) JoeCStrib JoeChristensen by Buster_ESPN Final: #Royals 7, #Twins 3. Minnesota goes 0-5 on this road trip and is now 9-33 in its past 42 games. Â Those Twins really know how to do it. They will guarantee themselves a sweet draft pick while we will pick right in the middle of the pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Tigers clinch tonight with an Indians loss and a Tigers win at 1am eastern time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 15, 2011 -> 07:54 AM) It'd be a lot less funny if we didn't have the exact same effect happening regarding the invincible Tigers and their upcoming 18 year division crown run. Â Um, I don't get it? We're poking fun at the Twins when our asses are going to be watching the playoffs from home right along with them. I don't get much solace in the fact they've been a little worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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