I'm not keeping track. I'm saying that you have no faith in anything.

lol. You somewhat made a point in that I'm no expert (never thought I was), but how the hell do you come up with those posts so fast? Does the search function only work for mods? And if it worked for us, I could pull up posts in which I've been right. Lillibridge is still a below average baseball player. I'm not crowning Humber after a good month. And CQ has proven me wrong so far. You don't keep Flowers simply in this case of IF you're able to trade A.J. If you thought anything of him you don't resign him and go with Flowers from the get go.

lol. You somewhat made a point in that I'm no expert (never thought I was), but how the hell do you come up with those posts so fast? Does the search function only work for mods? And if it worked for us, I could pull up posts in which I've been right. Lillibridge is still a below average baseball player. I'm not crowning Humber after a good month. And CQ has proven me wrong so far. You don't keep Flowers simply in this case of IF you're able to trade A.J. If you thought anything of him you don't resign him and go with Flowers from the get go.

I just use Google. "site:www.soxtalk.com Jordan4Life Quentin/Humber/Lillibridge"

He is slumping because he's trying to get his swing back. They fiddled with his stance and messed him up. He's hit before, he'll hit again.

It's been a long time since Tyler Flowers has hit.

No thanks. Sounds like Beckham. I've given up on this organization ever producing position player talent. Not that I'm giving up on Beckham. But he should've been a slam dunk. Get me Ron Schueler or somebody like him.

 

You are the first Sox fan I have ever seen pine for Ron Schueler, good grief. Propect guys would have loved Ron though, because Ron sure did LOVE his prospects. In fact he loved them so much he refused to ever part with them to upgrade the major league team, and when 85% of these guys went belly up (like most prospects do) we were left with the Scott Ruffcorns and the Mike Carusos of the world.

 

Also, Ron pulled off the move so many are begging for around here, a firesale. He ended up with such a great return on that boondoggle, we ended up with a whole two relief pitchers for three good major league pitchers. Yup, Ron would be the guy to clean this mess up for sure.

He is slumping because he's trying to get his swing back. They fiddled with his stance and messed him up. He's hit before, he'll hit again.

It's been almost 2 years now since Flowers has hit. He's not good.

Are you sure Flowers can't hit at least as well as any average MLB catcher?

He this year is hitting .221 but does have 11 walks and fpur home runs.

 

Is his arm great? If he can throw people out, I'd say there's a chance he can play in the big leagues.

why the anti-Flowers sentiment?

At 25 years old and 6-4, 245 doesn't he deserve a chance in the bigs, especially with AJP looking bad?

Are you sure Flowers can't hit at least as well as any average MLB catcher?

He this year is hitting .221 but does have 11 walks and fpur home runs.

 

Is his arm great? If he can throw people out, I'd say there's a chance he can play in the big leagues.

why the anti-Flowers sentiment?

At 25 years old and 6-4, 245 doesn't he deserve a chance in the bigs, especially with AJP looking bad?

Tyler Flowers would be hitting .150/.175 in the bigs and be on pace for 250 k's.

You are the first Sox fan I have ever seen pine for Ron Schueler, good grief. Propect guys would have loved Ron though, because Ron sure did LOVE his prospects. In fact he loved them so much he refused to ever part with them to upgrade the major league team, and when 85% of these guys went belly up (like most prospects do) we were left with the Scott Ruffcorns and the Mike Carusos of the world.

 

Also, Ron pulled off the move so many are begging for around here, a firesale. He ended up with such a great return on that boondoggle, we ended up with a whole two relief pitchers for three good major league pitchers. Yup, Ron would be the guy to clean this mess up for sure.

 

What a great post. Wow.

You are the first Sox fan I have ever seen pine for Ron Schueler, good grief. Propect guys would have loved Ron though, because Ron sure did LOVE his prospects. In fact he loved them so much he refused to ever part with them to upgrade the major league team, and when 85% of these guys went belly up (like most prospects do) we were left with the Scott Ruffcorns and the Mike Carusos of the world.

 

Also, Ron pulled off the move so many are begging for around here, a firesale. He ended up with such a great return on that boondoggle, we ended up with a whole two relief pitchers for three good major league pitchers. Yup, Ron would be the guy to clean this mess up for sure.

Just because a person loves to have a stocked farm system doesn't mean they want a firesale. It's about having talent at the MLB level and and the MiLB level, so that a team can sustain success year in and year out, and not have to be stuck with huge contracts of underwhelming players to fix holes because of a lack of young talent.

Tyler Flowers would be hitting .150/.175 in the bigs and be on pace for 250 k's.

 

And still would have a better OBP than A.J.

Just because a person loves to have a stocked farm system doesn't mean they want a firesale. It's about having talent at the MLB level and and the MiLB level, so that a team can sustain success year in and year out, and not have to be stuck with huge contracts of underwhelming players to fix holes because of a lack of young talent.

 

Really, people around here don't want a firesale? I read this board everyday, and half the posts in this forum are about how some people can't wait until this team is blown up and the rebuild begins. I wish we had a nice system, I would rather get a nice system by spending some money on the draft and hiring some better people for scouting and player development as opposed to trading good players off of the major league team for unknowns, which is what all prospects are.

 

My point about the firesale is that just because you have one doesn't mean you are going to get anything out of it when it is all said and done. Lots of teams have traded known assets, i.e. productive veteran players, and have absolutely nothing to show for it.

And still would have a better OBP than A.J.

Picture a 2nd adam dunn in the lineup right now. Not the good Adam Dunn, the post-appendix-removal Adam Dunn. that's effectively what Tyler Flowers would be.

I don't know if anyone posted this yet, but when we saw Felix in Seattle, the Sox had matched up with 9 of the top 12 Cy Young award finishers in the 33 games they had played to that point.

I don't know if anyone posted this yet, but when we saw Felix in Seattle, the Sox had matched up with 9 of the top 12 Cy Young award finishers in the 33 games they had played to that point.

 

Bartolo!

Picture a 2nd adam dunn in the lineup right now. Not the good Adam Dunn, the post-appendix-removal Adam Dunn. that's effectively what Tyler Flowers would be.

 

And I knew you couldn't resist replying after my quote.

Hawk & Wimpy will be in the booth for the A's series! Stoney on vacation.

 

Juan Pierre in 2010: 734 PA, 22 XBH

Carlos Quentin in 2011: 146 PA, 23 XBH

Carlos Quentin in 2008: 215 PA, 23 XBH

Hawk & Wimpy will be in the booth for the A's series! Stoney on vacation.

 

 

 

Vacation! Isn't getting 5 months off in the off season enough?

Juan Pierre in 2010: 734 PA, 22 XBH

Carlos Quentin in 2011: 146 PA, 23 XBH

Carlos Quentin in 2008: 215 PA, 23 XBH

Carlos has outdone himself LOL

2010 Carlos Quentin:

Home: .270/.380/.562

Road: .214/.299/.391

 

2011 Carlos Quentin: (small sample size, I know)

Home: .175/.288/.298

Road: .361/.425/.806

Hawk & Wimpy will be in the booth for the A's series! Stoney on vacation.

 

 

Its good to see Wimperoo back with the sox even from time to time.

Its good to see Wimperoo back with the sox even from time to time.

Ugh, can't stand him. Sounds like a nice guy, and probably good to meet in person and listen to stories over a beer or something, but as an announcer he is flat out terrible. Have him on for an inning or two, a whole game is almost unbearable.

Ugh, can't stand him. Sounds like a nice guy, and probably good to meet in person and listen to stories over a beer or something, but as an announcer he is flat out terrible. Have him on for an inning or two, a whole game is almost unbearable.

 

Wimpy ain't bad. He's light years ahead of the embarrassing abomination that is Hawk Harrelson at least. I might have the TV unmuted for once.

2010 Carlos Quentin:

Home: .270/.380/.562

Road: .214/.299/.391

 

2011 Carlos Quentin: (small sample size, I know)

Home: .175/.288/.298

Road: .361/.425/.806

So you're telling me Carlos Quentin is inconsistent? NO WAY!