knightni Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I'm not keeping track. I'm saying that you have no faith in anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 lol. You somewhat made a point in that I'm no expert (never thought I was), but how the hell do you come up with those posts so fast? Does the search function only work for mods? And if it worked for us, I could pull up posts in which I've been right. Lillibridge is still a below average baseball player. I'm not crowning Humber after a good month. And CQ has proven me wrong so far. You don't keep Flowers simply in this case of IF you're able to trade A.J. If you thought anything of him you don't resign him and go with Flowers from the get go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 8, 2011 -> 11:39 AM) lol. You somewhat made a point in that I'm no expert (never thought I was), but how the hell do you come up with those posts so fast? Does the search function only work for mods? And if it worked for us, I could pull up posts in which I've been right. Lillibridge is still a below average baseball player. I'm not crowning Humber after a good month. And CQ has proven me wrong so far. You don't keep Flowers simply in this case of IF you're able to trade A.J. If you thought anything of him you don't resign him and go with Flowers from the get go. I just use Google. "site:www.soxtalk.com Jordan4Life Quentin/Humber/Lillibridge" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 QUOTE (knightni @ May 8, 2011 -> 11:23 AM) He is slumping because he's trying to get his swing back. They fiddled with his stance and messed him up. He's hit before, he'll hit again. It's been a long time since Tyler Flowers has hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksfan61 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 8, 2011 -> 11:28 AM) No thanks. Sounds like Beckham. I've given up on this organization ever producing position player talent. Not that I'm giving up on Beckham. But he should've been a slam dunk. Get me Ron Schueler or somebody like him. Â You are the first Sox fan I have ever seen pine for Ron Schueler, good grief. Propect guys would have loved Ron though, because Ron sure did LOVE his prospects. In fact he loved them so much he refused to ever part with them to upgrade the major league team, and when 85% of these guys went belly up (like most prospects do) we were left with the Scott Ruffcorns and the Mike Carusos of the world. Â Also, Ron pulled off the move so many are begging for around here, a firesale. He ended up with such a great return on that boondoggle, we ended up with a whole two relief pitchers for three good major league pitchers. Yup, Ron would be the guy to clean this mess up for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 QUOTE (knightni @ May 8, 2011 -> 10:23 AM) He is slumping because he's trying to get his swing back. They fiddled with his stance and messed him up. He's hit before, he'll hit again. It's been almost 2 years now since Flowers has hit. He's not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Are you sure Flowers can't hit at least as well as any average MLB catcher? He this year is hitting .221 but does have 11 walks and fpur home runs. Â Is his arm great? If he can throw people out, I'd say there's a chance he can play in the big leagues. why the anti-Flowers sentiment? At 25 years old and 6-4, 245 doesn't he deserve a chance in the bigs, especially with AJP looking bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 8, 2011 -> 07:59 PM) Are you sure Flowers can't hit at least as well as any average MLB catcher? He this year is hitting .221 but does have 11 walks and fpur home runs. Â Is his arm great? If he can throw people out, I'd say there's a chance he can play in the big leagues. why the anti-Flowers sentiment? At 25 years old and 6-4, 245 doesn't he deserve a chance in the bigs, especially with AJP looking bad? Tyler Flowers would be hitting .150/.175 in the bigs and be on pace for 250 k's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (hawksfan61 @ May 8, 2011 -> 06:16 PM) You are the first Sox fan I have ever seen pine for Ron Schueler, good grief. Propect guys would have loved Ron though, because Ron sure did LOVE his prospects. In fact he loved them so much he refused to ever part with them to upgrade the major league team, and when 85% of these guys went belly up (like most prospects do) we were left with the Scott Ruffcorns and the Mike Carusos of the world. Also, Ron pulled off the move so many are begging for around here, a firesale. He ended up with such a great return on that boondoggle, we ended up with a whole two relief pitchers for three good major league pitchers. Yup, Ron would be the guy to clean this mess up for sure.  What a great post. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (hawksfan61 @ May 8, 2011 -> 01:16 PM) You are the first Sox fan I have ever seen pine for Ron Schueler, good grief. Propect guys would have loved Ron though, because Ron sure did LOVE his prospects. In fact he loved them so much he refused to ever part with them to upgrade the major league team, and when 85% of these guys went belly up (like most prospects do) we were left with the Scott Ruffcorns and the Mike Carusos of the world. Also, Ron pulled off the move so many are begging for around here, a firesale. He ended up with such a great return on that boondoggle, we ended up with a whole two relief pitchers for three good major league pitchers. Yup, Ron would be the guy to clean this mess up for sure. Just because a person loves to have a stocked farm system doesn't mean they want a firesale. It's about having talent at the MLB level and and the MiLB level, so that a team can sustain success year in and year out, and not have to be stuck with huge contracts of underwhelming players to fix holes because of a lack of young talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 8, 2011 -> 07:01 PM) Tyler Flowers would be hitting .150/.175 in the bigs and be on pace for 250 k's. Â And still would have a better OBP than A.J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksfan61 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 8, 2011 -> 08:39 PM) Just because a person loves to have a stocked farm system doesn't mean they want a firesale. It's about having talent at the MLB level and and the MiLB level, so that a team can sustain success year in and year out, and not have to be stuck with huge contracts of underwhelming players to fix holes because of a lack of young talent. Â Really, people around here don't want a firesale? I read this board everyday, and half the posts in this forum are about how some people can't wait until this team is blown up and the rebuild begins. I wish we had a nice system, I would rather get a nice system by spending some money on the draft and hiring some better people for scouting and player development as opposed to trading good players off of the major league team for unknowns, which is what all prospects are. Â My point about the firesale is that just because you have one doesn't mean you are going to get anything out of it when it is all said and done. Lots of teams have traded known assets, i.e. productive veteran players, and have absolutely nothing to show for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (SoxAce @ May 8, 2011 -> 11:20 PM) And still would have a better OBP than A.J. Picture a 2nd adam dunn in the lineup right now. Not the good Adam Dunn, the post-appendix-removal Adam Dunn. that's effectively what Tyler Flowers would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 I don't know if anyone posted this yet, but when we saw Felix in Seattle, the Sox had matched up with 9 of the top 12 Cy Young award finishers in the 33 games they had played to that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 9, 2011 -> 08:14 AM) I don't know if anyone posted this yet, but when we saw Felix in Seattle, the Sox had matched up with 9 of the top 12 Cy Young award finishers in the 33 games they had played to that point. Â Bartolo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 9, 2011 -> 08:11 AM) Picture a 2nd adam dunn in the lineup right now. Not the good Adam Dunn, the post-appendix-removal Adam Dunn. that's effectively what Tyler Flowers would be. Â And I knew you couldn't resist replying after my quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Hawk & Wimpy will be in the booth for the A's series! Stoney on vacation. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Juan Pierre in 2010: 734 PA, 22 XBH Carlos Quentin in 2011: 146 PA, 23 XBH Carlos Quentin in 2008: 215 PA, 23 XBH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxrwhite Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 9, 2011 -> 09:52 AM) Hawk & Wimpy will be in the booth for the A's series! Stoney on vacation.   Vacation! Isn't getting 5 months off in the off season enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 QUOTE (Kalapse @ May 9, 2011 -> 10:58 PM) Juan Pierre in 2010: 734 PA, 22 XBH Carlos Quentin in 2011: 146 PA, 23 XBH Carlos Quentin in 2008: 215 PA, 23 XBH Carlos has outdone himself LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 2010 Carlos Quentin: Home: .270/.380/.562 Road: .214/.299/.391 Â 2011 Carlos Quentin: (small sample size, I know) Home: .175/.288/.298 Road: .361/.425/.806 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 9, 2011 -> 09:52 AM) Hawk & Wimpy will be in the booth for the A's series! Stoney on vacation.  Its good to see Wimperoo back with the sox even from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 QUOTE (bulokis @ May 11, 2011 -> 09:58 AM) Its good to see Wimperoo back with the sox even from time to time. Ugh, can't stand him. Sounds like a nice guy, and probably good to meet in person and listen to stories over a beer or something, but as an announcer he is flat out terrible. Have him on for an inning or two, a whole game is almost unbearable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 11, 2011 -> 02:25 PM) Ugh, can't stand him. Sounds like a nice guy, and probably good to meet in person and listen to stories over a beer or something, but as an announcer he is flat out terrible. Have him on for an inning or two, a whole game is almost unbearable. Â Wimpy ain't bad. He's light years ahead of the embarrassing abomination that is Hawk Harrelson at least. I might have the TV unmuted for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 10, 2011 -> 10:02 AM) 2010 Carlos Quentin: Home: .270/.380/.562 Road: .214/.299/.391 Â 2011 Carlos Quentin: (small sample size, I know) Home: .175/.288/.298 Road: .361/.425/.806 So you're telling me Carlos Quentin is inconsistent? NO WAY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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