May 28, 201114 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 27, 2011 -> 11:54 PM) Tony Pena is the worst reliever since Rojo Johnson. And atleast Rojo had some personality. Randy Williams is angry that you've forgotten him.
May 28, 201114 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 28, 2011 -> 04:54 AM) Tony Pena is the worst reliever since Rojo Johnson. And atleast Rojo had some personality. Pena has given up at least a run in 6 of his last 10 appearances. His ERA is over 6. Going by production per salary, is he the worst pitcher in White Sox history? I know Sox have had some horrific pitchers, but most are just low paid guys. I guess one could argue Linebrink vs. Pena as worst ever, taking salary into consideration?
May 28, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 27, 2011 -> 10:59 PM) Randy Williams is angry that you've forgotten him. Randy Williams could do nothing but fail, Pena actually has some talent.
May 28, 201114 yr Pena has talent? He's awful basically every other outing. And he's been that way a while. I get the feeling he'd suck even in the minor leagues. Some guys just can't get people out. He's one of them.
May 28, 201114 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ May 28, 2011 -> 12:08 AM) Pena has given up at least a run in 6 of his last 10 appearances. His ERA is over 6. Going by production per salary, is he the worst pitcher in White Sox history? I know Sox have had some horrific pitchers, but most are just low paid guys. I guess one could argue Linebrink vs. Pena as worst ever, taking salary into consideration? Keep in mind, Pena is "only" making $1.6 million this year, so he'd have to be 3-4 times as bad as Linebrink salary wise.
May 28, 201114 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ May 27, 2011 -> 11:11 PM) Pena has talent? He's awful basically every other outing. And he's been that way a while. I get the feeling he'd suck even in the minor leagues. Some guys just can't get people out. He's one of them. Yes, he has talent. Using said talent? No, he's not doing that.
May 28, 201114 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ May 28, 2011 -> 12:11 AM) Pena has talent? He's awful basically every other outing. And he's been that way a while. I get the feeling he'd suck even in the minor leagues. Some guys just can't get people out. He's one of them. In 2006 he was first switched to being a reliever, and between AA and AAA he put up a 0.90 WHIP and a 1.30 ERA in 46 innings. He might have lost something since then. Since 2007, when he was actually good, his WHIP has gone up every year.
May 28, 201114 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 28, 2011 -> 05:14 AM) Keep in mind, Pena is "only" making $1.6 million this year, so he'd have to be 3-4 times as bad as Linebrink salary wise. I didn't realize that. I thought he was one of those big salary flops. $1.6 isn't bad at all.
May 28, 201114 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ May 28, 2011 -> 12:23 AM) I didn't realize that. I thought he was one of those big salary flops. $1.6 isn't bad at all. First year arbitration. If he suddenly turns his season around and the Sox offer him Arbitration next year, that number would go up to probably $2.5 mil+ or so, then it'd start getting annoying.
May 28, 201114 yr I wonder when was the last time that a player struck out 4 times in a game, followed the next day by walking 4 times...
May 28, 201114 yr QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 28, 2011 -> 12:59 AM) Gordon's very nasty shiner. Wayne Arnold sure looks ugly right there.
May 28, 201114 yr QUOTE (knightni @ May 28, 2011 -> 02:08 AM) I wonder when was the last time that a player struck out 4 times in a game, followed the next day by walking 4 times... May 26th-27th, 2011.
May 28, 201114 yr QUOTE (knightni @ May 28, 2011 -> 01:08 AM) I wonder when was the last time that a player struck out 4 times in a game, followed the next day by walking 4 times... Hes never gonna strike out anymore batting 7th.. why the hell would you pitch to Dunn when guys like Vizquel and McPherson are behind him? Hes not gonna get anything to hit anymore, as long as hes in the 7th spot
May 28, 201114 yr QUOTE (knightni @ May 28, 2011 -> 12:08 AM) I wonder when was the last time that a player struck out 4 times in a game, followed the next day by walking 4 times... Dick Allen, May 1-2, 1968.
May 28, 201114 yr 54 games in the books. 1/3 of the season. Team ERA: 3.92 31 quality starts. And they are on pace for 90 losses. That's bad offense, bad bullpen early, and bad managing.
May 28, 201114 yr Indians just dropped a 4-spot on Tampa. Up 7-2 after 8. They apparently don't seem to understand they're supposed to fall apart soon, while we go on another 25-5 run. Happens every year.
May 28, 201114 yr Wow! Horrible baserunning by Sean Rodriguez. Why would you try to score there where even if you did you're still down 3 with Zobrist coming up and representing the tying run? The Sox aren't the only team that goes baseball stupid.
May 28, 201114 yr QUOTE (knightni @ May 28, 2011 -> 08:38 PM) So... Brent Lillibridge's bio says he's 5'11". 5'11? Pounds maybe! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8JaIEXsQTo#t=56s
May 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 28, 2011 -> 10:50 PM) Indians just dropped a 4-spot on Tampa. Up 7-2 after 8. They apparently don't seem to understand they're supposed to fall apart soon, while we go on another 25-5 run. Happens every year. It's hard to believe some fans think we are still in the race. Our only hope is the wild card and that's always difficult to achieve with Tampa, Yanks, Boston. Soon the firesale will begin. We don't have what it takes.
May 29, 201114 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ May 28, 2011 -> 11:34 PM) It's hard to believe some fans think we are still in the race. Our only hope is the wild card and that's always difficult to achieve with Tampa, Yanks, Boston. Soon the firesale will begin. We don't have what it takes. Forget the WC. That's not happening. It's happened once since, what, 2000? The WC winner is property to the AL east. Like I said, I think the Indians are good. How good? Need a little more time to gauge that.
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