Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 A rookie pitcher by the name of Gilbert Godfrey vs Javy 2.0. And even though Edwin is mediocre, that should be a win. Up 5-3 in the 9th with two outs and nobody on and Sergio morphs into Billy Koch. This type of loss distorts an entire season. And f*** damn will Ozzie f***ing bench Juan Pierre. What the f*** does he offer? I can't stand these two inept idiots. No reason at all to believe Viciedo can't duplicate what Mark Trumbo has done for the Angels. I hate this organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapzk Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 (edited) Just turn the page on this one and move on Edited June 11, 2011 by kapzk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt52235 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 QUOTE (kapzk @ Jun 10, 2011 -> 08:28 PM) Just turn the page on this one and move on  Agreed. Its an extremely s***ty loss, but let's just get em tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 QUOTE (kapzk @ Jun 10, 2011 -> 11:28 PM) Just turn the page on this one and move on The team definitely needs to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Can't argue with Jordan tonight. Changes are way overdue. Bring up Viciedo now. Â Sergio's status as closer will be in jeopardy if he ever returns to the mound with that horrible stuff again. Problem is Sale and Thornton can't do it. Crain is not good enough. It's truly Sergio or nothing. We may have to rest him more or something, cause it's puzzling how he had nothing tonight. Â I wouldn't be so mad if we ever won games like teams do against us. If we're down 4 in the sixth, forget it. Two in the ninth? Ha. We're cooked. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapzk Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 It's just frustating that we had this one in the bag and let it loose.... we are quite fortunate that this is a s***ty division. I still see optimism surround the teams chances... Detroit now goes up vs Pineda/Hernandez and Clevelands got 3 more vs the Yankees. So we can trim this down to 2.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_LEE45 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 . Crain is not good enough         Well i sure dont think Santos is the answer and maybe not Crain but i would love to give him a CHANCE,i would rather give up 4 runs to the other team if they HIT the ball but come on 4 walks sorry this is the MAJOR LEAGUE and its not cause of today santos always had control problems,and yes JP has to go start Liilibrige in left!!!!!!!    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 That was the WORST loss in a long time for me. Once they were up 5-3 at NO POINT did I think they would lose. Â Won't make that mistake again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I can't remember the last time we had so many "pitches" to win a game. This is one of the most shocking losses we've had under the Ozzie era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 QUOTE (kapzk @ Jun 10, 2011 -> 09:41 PM) It's just frustating that we had this one in the bag and let it loose.... Â We had them down to their final strike on 8 pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 lol, J4L cracks me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 (edited) Why even insult Edwin? He had nothing to do with this loss. Should have gotten the W. Â Maybe we are supposed to take the question "how did we lose this game?" literally? Because I don't think you know. Edited June 11, 2011 by MAX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 QUOTE (MAX @ Jun 11, 2011 -> 12:08 AM) Why even insult Edwin? He had nothing to do with this loss. Should have gotten the W. Maybe we are supposed to take the question "how did we lose this game?" literally? Because I don't think you know.  That's exactly what I was going to say. Jackson was winning when he left, hell Jackson was winning with 26 outs in the books, and 0 runners on base. Blame Santos, Blame Ozzie, Blame our offense who couldn't do jacks*** with RISP. Don't blame the guy who gave you 6 innings of 2 run ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 10, 2011 -> 11:34 PM) Blame our offense who couldn't do jacks*** with RISP. Don't blame the guy who gave you 6 innings of 2 run ball. Â How many runs do they have to score to compensate for a potential bullpen loss and JP's defense? I'm going to go with 8. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 A loss is a loss, but these are like the worst kind... at least when you're losing by 16 runs in the 5th inning you can just kind of laugh at how comically bad it is and chalk it up as one game, but these feel like a punch in the stomach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 QUOTE (MAX @ Jun 11, 2011 -> 04:08 AM) Why even insult Edwin? He had nothing to do with this loss. Should have gotten the W. Maybe we are supposed to take the question "how did we lose this game?" literally? Because I don't think you know.  This isn't a flame, but are you concerned he only had one strike out against the pathetic A's? What's up with that? I didn't see the game til right after he exited. Has he still got good stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 11, 2011 -> 01:05 AM) This isn't a flame, but are you concerned he only had one strike out against the pathetic A's? What's up with that? I didn't see the game til right after he exited. Has he still got good stuff? I am concerned about edwin. Edwin has not looked very good in a while now. This was a better start for Edwin than the last. All I hope for is improvement. Â He didn't express concern, was my point, he called him javy v2, which doesn't seem appropriate on a night like this. Edwin at least has some heart. He fought for it, and ended up doing alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 QUOTE (MAX @ Jun 11, 2011 -> 01:08 AM) I am concerned about edwin. Edwin has not looked very good in a while now. This was a better start for Edwin than the last. All I hope for is improvement. Â He didn't express concern, was my point, he called him javy v2, which doesn't seem appropriate on a night like this. Edwin at least has some heart. He fought for it, and ended up doing alright. He hasn't had a good slider recently, so he's basically had to rely on just his fastball, which doesn't move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 11, 2011 -> 01:10 AM) He hasn't had a good slider recently, so he's basically had to rely on just his fastball, which doesn't move. That is reasonable. I hope his slider comes back. Unforuntately, I only get to listen to most of them games, and watch at most 3 or so a week. I just know that he has had control problems. Â Javy, on the other hand seems to have a reputation among sox fans as having problems between the ears. I don't think its fair to say that Edwin's problems are similar. Â I understand the frustration on the OP's part. It was a very frustrating game for us fans. I just don't like bearing witness to the extra negativity here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 QUOTE (MAX @ Jun 11, 2011 -> 12:21 AM) That is reasonable. I hope his slider comes back. Unforuntately, I only get to listen to most of them games, and watch at most 3 or so a week. I just know that he has had control problems. Javy, on the other hand seems to have a reputation among sox fans as having problems between the ears. I don't think its fair to say that Edwin's problems are similar.  I understand the frustration on the OP's part. It was a very frustrating game for us fans. I just don't like bearing witness to the extra negativity here. Yeah, I agree. Edwin has his own set of problems, but these aren't his. He's battled through 3 starts now where he didn't have much other than his fastball, and in two of them, he's held the opponents to 2 runs. We could have won both of these games and definitely should have won this one.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Sox Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Very, very tough loss. Especially since we could have been 4.5 games back, and also gained ground on the Tigers. But reality is these types of losses happen a couple times a season. We've been on the other end of it (comeback against KC that was very similar comes to mind), but not as much as I'd like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Gordon had some big at bats tonight that surprised me, in a bad way. I hope he picks it up again too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 The difference between Edwin and Javy is that if you were to strike both of them in the groin area with a closed fist, I'm pretty sure only Edwin would be the one who immediately doubles over in pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Sox Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 QUOTE (MAX @ Jun 11, 2011 -> 12:46 AM) Gordon had some big at bats tonight that surprised me, in a bad way. I hope he picks it up again too. He has some seriously bad habits with his swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Agree with Jordan. Sould have put 10 runs up against Godfrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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