October 1, 201114 yr QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 08:01 PM) Incredibly good point. It somehow makes him look even worse. Hate the mouth, not the man. Edited October 1, 201114 yr by Jordan4life
October 1, 201114 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 08:30 PM) I don't believe I sugested Oz was going to die poor, but do you really think Ozzie has enough to watch $8,000,000.00 slip away? You can always live a little better. An even bigger boat, an even bigger house, bigger diamonds for the wife and girlfriend, even longer and more lavish vacations. I just watched a special about a ship that rents for $500,000 per week. Think a guy with a couple million in the bank will lease it for a month and cruise the Med Sea? How about a guy with $10 mil in the bank? If no one desired a house more expensive than a milliom bucks, then no one would build $5 mil homes. Think about this, didn't Jordan make enough playing basketball? Why did he endorse products? I've read very few people that say they have enough money and don't want any more. Yes, he's set for life. But do you think he doesn't want to improve on how "set" he is? Was this a little hint of Ozzie's lifestyle when you said wife n girlfriend? Not flaming, just wonder if u suspect he is a candidate to go on the show, "Cheaters."
October 1, 201114 yr QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 29, 2011 -> 02:12 PM) I have to agree with Chisoxfn... Dunn was neither Kenny nor Ozzie's fault, no one saw this coming for him. Peavy had one injury, and ankle injury unrelated to pitching, so I don't fault him for that either. Swisher was questionable defensively, that's on Kenny but not a big deal. Kenny's biggest misses were Rios and the Hudson trade, he outright blundered those. If Stewart sucks or is a mental midget the effects linger.
October 1, 201114 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 03:30 PM) I don't believe I sugested Oz was going to die poor, but do you really think Ozzie has enough to watch $8,000,000.00 slip away? You can always live a little better. An even bigger boat, an even bigger house, bigger diamonds for the wife and girlfriend, even longer and more lavish vacations. I just watched a special about a ship that rents for $500,000 per week. Think a guy with a couple million in the bank will lease it for a month and cruise the Med Sea? How about a guy with $10 mil in the bank? If no one desired a house more expensive than a milliom bucks, then no one would build $5 mil homes. Think about this, didn't Jordan make enough playing basketball? Why did he endorse products? I've read very few people that say they have enough money and don't want any more. Yes, he's set for life. But do you think he doesn't want to improve on how "set" he is? About a month ago there was an article on MSN about celebrities who went broke. One of them was Willie Nelson. It's very easy for us who are not millionaires to be very judgmental with someone's money.
October 1, 201114 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 05:32 PM) Funny how Ozzie had to have that option exercised, it gets exercised and he doesn't honor it, and HE pops off about loyalty. Maybe he should re think that. If JR doesn't let him out of his contract, its very debatable whether he ever gets offered what he signed for ever again. It reminds me of the Princess Bride. "you keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means."
October 1, 201114 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 09:07 PM) Was this a little hint of Ozzie's lifestyle when you said wife n girlfriend? Not flaming, just wonder if u suspect he is a candidate to go on the show, "Cheaters." Nah, I was talking in generalities.
October 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 10:30 PM) About a month ago there was an article on MSN about celebrities who went broke. One of them was Willie Nelson. It's very easy for us who are not millionaires to be very judgmental with someone's money. It's easy cause its f***ing stupid. I don't feel bad for 1 second if a person who's made millions lost it all because of their own stupidity. Living within your means applies to those making 35k or 3.5mil
October 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 02:17 AM) It's easy cause its f***ing stupid. I don't feel bad for 1 second if a person who's made millions lost it all because of their own stupidity. Living within your means applies to those making 35k or 3.5mil Well isn't that compassionate of u?
October 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 09:29 PM) Well isn't that compassionate of u? Really, you would seek sympathy if you blew a $3.5 million salary?? I understand some people don't have the best education in how to invest and spend the money, but it should be common sense to anybody that you have X amount of money, therefore you can only spend X amount of money before it's gone. $3.5 million is a lot of money, it would take multiple screwups before that person was in really deep s***, and they should've learned their lesson by then.
October 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 09:33 PM) Really, you would seek sympathy if you blew a $3.5 million salary?? I understand some people don't have the best education in how to invest and spend the money, but it should be common sense to anybody that you have X amount of money, therefore you can only spend X amount of money before it's gone. $3.5 million is a lot of money, it would take multiple screwups before that person was in really deep s***, and they should've learned their lesson by then. That's short sighted. Some have lost it on investments, bad accountants. It's more difficult for an individual to keep track of that kind of money. Do you think they keep it in a checking account and wait for their daily email from Chase?
October 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 08:29 PM) Well isn't that compassionate of u? Nope, just not understanding of how wealthy people have lost money. The usual response is "living within their means". That's not how people always go broke.
October 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 11:48 PM) That's short sighted. Some have lost it on investments, bad accountants. It's more difficult for an individual to keep track of that kind of money. Do you think they keep it in a checking account and wait for their daily email from Chase? Short sighted? You mean that it's not common sense to give a stranger millions of dollars when he promises a 20% return every year? These guys of course will have tons of people coming to them with investment opportunities, but if they were smart or had common sense they would follow the herd and put their money in say, I dunno, what investment professionals put money in, aka mutual funds, ETFs, stocks, bonds, etc. If you say that's not common sense than I disagree, when you train as a kid for a sport who do you look up to? Professional athletes. When you want to invest your money who do you look up to? Legitimate professional investment companies. And if they were smart they would diversify, or atleast have a savings account, so if the economy flopped or something they would have atleast enough to live off of. And yes, I do put that on them if they don't keep track of their expenditures. If you don't know your own finances then you're setting yourself up to lose them.
October 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 11:54 PM) Short sighted? You mean that it's not common sense to give a stranger millions of dollars when he promises a 20% return every year? These guys of course will have tons of people coming to them with investment opportunities, but if they were smart or had common sense they would follow the herd and put their money in say, I dunno, what investment professionals put money in, aka mutual funds, ETFs, stocks, bonds, etc. If you say that's not common sense than I disagree, when you train as a kid for a sport who do you look up to? Professional athletes. When you want to invest your money who do you look up to? Legitimate professional investment companies. And if they were smart they would diversify, or atleast have a savings account, so if the economy flopped or something they would have atleast enough to live off of. And yes, I do put that on them if they don't keep track of their expenditures. If you don't know your own finances then you're setting yourself up to lose them. Ummm... what's this thread about again?
October 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 12:14 AM) Ummm... what's this thread about again? It obviously got on a tangent, but this is a topic that gets discussed quite a bit too. If the mods want to move it out of the thread that's fine, but it's not nearly as bad as some other tangents some threads have taken.
October 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 11:51 PM) Nope, just not understanding of how wealthy people have lost money. The usual response is "living within their means". That's not how people always go broke. Most people will never see $3.5 million in their lifetime, much less make it in ONE year.
October 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 01:12 AM) Most people will never see $3.5 million in their lifetime, much less make it in ONE year. But Ozzie would die poor.
October 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 1, 2011 -> 11:48 PM) That's short sighted. Some have lost it on investments, bad accountants. It's more difficult for an individual to keep track of that kind of money. Do you think they keep it in a checking account and wait for their daily email from Chase? If you make $2 million a year like Ozzie was making, you can live a pretty comforable life without going broke. There are no excuses for any of these athletes who have gone broke other than total stupidity. Steve Stone was on television the other day and he said about Ozzie and money was this, "if bringing home $2 million a year isn't enough for your wife to go shopping, its time to find a new wife".
October 2, 201114 yr yes, Ozzie could buy a nice $150,000 in Waukegan or Ford Heights and drive a 4 year old Chevy to to the ball games and never worry about money. Guys making minimum wage think if I was just making $25,000 a year, I'd be happy. Guy making $25,000 wishes he was making $50,000. It just keeps going up from there. Some people are happy just to be able to give their kids a 10 year old Toyota to drive, but wish they could give them something a little nicer. When you are making $2 mil its remarkably easy to spend it and want to have $3 million.
October 2, 201114 yr It's also an ego thing. You think these guys don't know what everyone else makes? Athletes are competitive in most everything. Wanting the fastest car, the biggest house, the best parties . . .
October 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 08:24 AM) It's also an ego thing. You think these guys don't know what everyone else makes? Athletes are competitive in most everything. Wanting the fastest car, the biggest house, the best parties . . . I'm trying to think of other fields where the employees (players) make many millions more than management.
October 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 09:22 AM) I'm trying to think of other fields where the employees (players) make many millions more than management. Not millions but it happens in sales all the time for the top producers. And IMHO, wise management allows for this and doesn't adjust the pay structure.
October 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 08:23 AM) yes, Ozzie could buy a nice $150,000 in Waukegan or Ford Heights and drive a 4 year old Chevy to to the ball games and never worry about money. Guys making minimum wage think if I was just making $25,000 a year, I'd be happy. Guy making $25,000 wishes he was making $50,000. It just keeps going up from there. Some people are happy just to be able to give their kids a 10 year old Toyota to drive, but wish they could give them something a little nicer. When you are making $2 mil its remarkably easy to spend it and want to have $3 million. If you're making $2 million a year and spending it all, you deserve what's next. He wants a $2 million boat. Enough said.
October 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 10:38 AM) If you're making $2 million a year and spending it all, you deserve what's next. He wants a $2 million boat. Enough said. And he has the opportunity to earn the money to acquire it. I'm not suggesting he is spending it all, but how much of it should he spend? $50,000? People live comfortably on that and he'd have enough to live on for 30 or 40 years.
October 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 30, 2011 -> 09:07 PM) Was this a little hint of Ozzie's lifestyle when you said wife n girlfriend? Not flaming, just wonder if u suspect he is a candidate to go on the show, "Cheaters." It certainly used to be his lifestyle, not so much anymore... Firsthand knowledge of this...
October 2, 201114 yr QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 2, 2011 -> 09:24 AM) It's also an ego thing. You think these guys don't know what everyone else makes? Athletes are competitive in most everything. Wanting the fastest car, the biggest house, the best parties . . .Again...the answer to this problem is to make it so that they also have the highest tax bill.
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