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2011-12 White Sox off season catch all thread

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QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 04:39 PM)
Huh? I was just saying that I was happy with Santos' parting gift, which was a higher draft spot.

Oops, i misread.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 1, 2012 -> 02:53 PM)
If saying that Alexei could and should have done better on offense last year is "Going after him", then fine, I'm going after him, but then I think I'm "Going after" at least 20+ members of last year's team.

 

Get 'em, Pa.

Based on expectations, it's hard to be upset with either Humber or Santos.

 

Maybe they "upped the ante" so much in the first half, that their fall offs in the 2nd half created the perception they were disappointments, Santos in particular with the two big blown saves against the Tiggers, which started the Marty campaign against him and his eventually banishment.

 

Joking...well, I'm enjoying a beautiful day in Singapore, there's that. My new favorite country.

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I just missed opening day tickets by about a minute. Southpaw is at the LaSalle St Station.

Copied from Trib's Mark Gonzales Mailbag.

 

As a long-time Sox fan, I'm deeply saddened by the complete collapse of our major and minor league talent pool caused by poor drafts, irresponsible trades, and underachieving, high-priced players. Diminishing further hope, we have only one player recognized as a top 100 prospect, and I hear that might be a gift so that all teams are represented. This feeling of despair has recently been amplified by the recent trade of arguably our best hitter Carlos Quentin for two obscure minor league prospects. This is after trading Sergio Santos, a proven closer, for just one prospect. Sox fans are beginning to wonder if we are getting outwitted and outmaneuvered. Now add this to the collective body of work negotiated over the last three years, and you begin to see the evidence of what's causing the problem: a flawed talent-acquisition strategy.

 

Sox fans are appreciative of what Jerry Reinsdorf has done for the organization. He wrote the checks last year to fund the all-in strategy. That was a brave and courageous move by probably the only owner in baseball that would spend more than he took it in for the chance of winning another championship. But we were eventually equally dismayed when we found out that the field manager and general manager were not on same page squandering a precious opportunity for moving the organization forward.

 

Adding to our despair, we are now hearing that the Sox have the WORST minor league system in baseball because they drafted poorly, traded away high-potential prospects, and mismanaged their Latin American development efforts. This news is coupled with the fact that they haven't made the playoffs in two years.

 

As fans, we will always appreciate Kenny and Ozzie for winning the 2005 World Series. It was a magical run and a monumental accomplishment. But based on recent poor results, it is time for a new game plan of rebuilding the organization from the ground up with highly talented youth so that we as fans have hope for the future. Please begin to implement this new strategy by signing the free-agent Cuban players. We need a vote of confidence in our future and we need it now. -- Ed Lasak; Riverside, CA

 

 

QUOTE (oldsox @ Feb 2, 2012 -> 10:01 AM)
Copied from Trib's Mark Gonzales Mailbag.

 

As a long-time Sox fan, I'm deeply saddened by the complete collapse of our major and minor league talent pool caused by poor drafts, irresponsible trades, and underachieving, high-priced players. Diminishing further hope, we have only one player recognized as a top 100 prospect, and I hear that might be a gift so that all teams are represented. This feeling of despair has recently been amplified by the recent trade of arguably our best hitter Carlos Quentin for two obscure minor league prospects. This is after trading Sergio Santos, a proven closer, for just one prospect. Sox fans are beginning to wonder if we are getting outwitted and outmaneuvered. Now add this to the collective body of work negotiated over the last three years, and you begin to see the evidence of what's causing the problem: a flawed talent-acquisition strategy.

 

Sox fans are appreciative of what Jerry Reinsdorf has done for the organization. He wrote the checks last year to fund the all-in strategy. That was a brave and courageous move by probably the only owner in baseball that would spend more than he took it in for the chance of winning another championship. But we were eventually equally dismayed when we found out that the field manager and general manager were not on same page squandering a precious opportunity for moving the organization forward.

 

Adding to our despair, we are now hearing that the Sox have the WORST minor league system in baseball because they drafted poorly, traded away high-potential prospects, and mismanaged their Latin American development efforts. This news is coupled with the fact that they haven't made the playoffs in two years.

 

As fans, we will always appreciate Kenny and Ozzie for winning the 2005 World Series. It was a magical run and a monumental accomplishment. But based on recent poor results, it is time for a new game plan of rebuilding the organization from the ground up with highly talented youth so that we as fans have hope for the future. Please begin to implement this new strategy by signing the free-agent Cuban players. We need a vote of confidence in our future and we need it now. -- Ed Lasak; Riverside, CA

 

There's another owner in the same division that does the same thing, especially this year.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Feb 2, 2012 -> 11:01 AM)
Copied from Trib's Mark Gonzales Mailbag.

 

As a long-time Sox fan, I'm deeply saddened by the complete collapse of our major and minor league talent pool caused by poor drafts, irresponsible trades, and underachieving, high-priced players. Diminishing further hope, we have only one player recognized as a top 100 prospect, and I hear that might be a gift so that all teams are represented. This feeling of despair has recently been amplified by the recent trade of arguably our best hitter Carlos Quentin for two obscure minor league prospects. This is after trading Sergio Santos, a proven closer, for just one prospect. Sox fans are beginning to wonder if we are getting outwitted and outmaneuvered. Now add this to the collective body of work negotiated over the last three years, and you begin to see the evidence of what's causing the problem: a flawed talent-acquisition strategy.

 

Sox fans are appreciative of what Jerry Reinsdorf has done for the organization. He wrote the checks last year to fund the all-in strategy. That was a brave and courageous move by probably the only owner in baseball that would spend more than he took it in for the chance of winning another championship. But we were eventually equally dismayed when we found out that the field manager and general manager were not on same page squandering a precious opportunity for moving the organization forward.

 

Adding to our despair, we are now hearing that the Sox have the WORST minor league system in baseball because they drafted poorly, traded away high-potential prospects, and mismanaged their Latin American development efforts. This news is coupled with the fact that they haven't made the playoffs in two years.

 

As fans, we will always appreciate Kenny and Ozzie for winning the 2005 World Series. It was a magical run and a monumental accomplishment. But based on recent poor results, it is time for a new game plan of rebuilding the organization from the ground up with highly talented youth so that we as fans have hope for the future. Please begin to implement this new strategy by signing the free-agent Cuban players. We need a vote of confidence in our future and we need it now. -- Ed Lasak; Riverside, CA

 

What was the point of this? This was more appropriate several years ago, not now. And the statements about Quentin and Santos are somewhat naive.

2 years since we've been in the playoffs??? huh?????

Sweet Moses, I hate everything about that fan who wrote that to Gonzo. That's the worst type of fan IMO. Cue my vomit at the ignorance pretending to represent the majority.

^^^ Chicago one is pretty awful. Toronto one looks legit though.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Feb 3, 2012 -> 02:15 AM)
^^^ Chicago one is pretty awful. Toronto one looks legit though.

Buffalo isn't bad, either.

 

Tennessee's makes me laugh. :lol:

 

Ahahahaha!!! I just saw Minnesota!

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Feb 3, 2012 -> 01:15 AM)
^^^ Chicago one is pretty awful. Toronto one looks legit though.

I think the inclusion of the Fire ruined it. Maybe the Bears or Bulls should have been more of the focal point.

I like the Pittsburgh one.

Houston, Indy, LA, Toronto, Buffalo are the best in my opinion.

 

Chicago one is awful.

 

Edit: Also, Philly and Utah are sweet.

 

Add the Bay and Charlotte to the good column.

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The fan who wrote that is from Riverside...Enough said.

 

(Oh wait, only like three people will get that....)

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 3, 2012 -> 10:56 AM)
An 18 year old throwing 90 is not commonplace. 90 is an average major league fastball.

This offseason has been as boring as the 2011 White Sox.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 6, 2012 -> 12:27 PM)
This offseason has been as boring as the 2011 White Sox.

Close, but nothing is as boring as the 2011 White Sox.

 

God, that team was frustrating.

White Sox over Tigers in MLB Network's baseball IQ:

 

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 8, 2012 -> 08:01 AM)
White Sox over Tigers in MLB Network's baseball IQ:

 

 

The cool thing about that show is that it shows folks in the front office are not all that great at baseball trivia.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Feb 8, 2012 -> 11:26 AM)
The cool thing about that show is that it shows folks in the front office are not all that great at baseball trivia.

 

I don't understand why Jose Contreras is working for the Tigers.....

Keith Law doesn't like our minor league system. While I am w/ the people who think he has irrational hate towards the Sox, it's hard to say this has any relation to that.

 

He writes....

 

30. Chicago White Sox

 

 

And they're not particularly close to No. 29, either. When you don't spend money in the draft, you're not going to fare well in anyone's organizational rankings. The new collective bargaining agreement, which clamps down on teams' ability to acquire premium talent in the draft through higher bonuses, was the result of a long-standing effort by White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf, who wanted to force other teams to play by his rules.

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