The thing I don't get is that the new Marlins stadium is supposed to be a massive pitcher's park. Why would two potential HOFers in Pujols/Fielder want to go play there and have their numbers die?

to Hanley's credit - the Marlins are dips***s for signing a WORSE player to play SS than the one they already have. If I'm Hanley I'm pissed too.

 

Yeah, I'm actually kind of on Hanley's side on this one too

The thing I don't get is that the new Marlins stadium is supposed to be a massive pitcher's park. Why would two potential HOFers in Pujols/Fielder want to go play there and have their numbers die?

In the end, I'm not sure either actually will, and that may have played a part.

 

I wonder if the Marlins will trade Hanley to the NYM for Wright, since Reyes and Wright are great friends

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The thing I don't get is that the new Marlins stadium is supposed to be a massive pitcher's park. Why would two potential HOFers in Pujols/Fielder want to go play there and have their numbers die?

It won't matter because it'll be Ozzie-ball. If they land one of those guys, they could be bunting.

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Bosox said to be talking to Chisox about Gavin Floyd today. It's known Orioles, Gavin's hometown team, also among those interested in Gavin

They can have him.

to Hanley's credit - the Marlins are dips***s for signing a WORSE player to play SS than the one they already have. If I'm Hanley I'm pissed too.

 

Hanley is a bad defensive SS who has been bad at the plate the last two years. So what if you move to 3B? It makes the team better. Doesn't he want to win? I think he's being a crybaby, and his last two years don't give him the last word anymore.

The thing I don't get is that the new Marlins stadium is supposed to be a massive pitcher's park. Why would two potential HOFers in Pujols/Fielder want to go play there and have their numbers die?

 

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to Hanley's credit - the Marlins are dips***s for signing a WORSE player to play SS than the one they already have. If I'm Hanley I'm pissed too.

I only partially blame him, I mostly blame the organization for acting like a lotto winner who had two bankruptcies previous to winning. Disaster is where this is headed, IMO.

 

They can have him.

 

Not a Gavin fan? Who would we target prospect-wise?

If the Sox are selling its not about targeting certain spects, its about getting whatever you can for the players.

 

If you are going to slash and burn, you cant necessarily worry about maximizing value. Part of the value is getting rid of the contracts and having a fresh start.

Hanley is a bad defensive SS who has been bad at the plate the last two years. So what if you move to 3B? It makes the team better. Doesn't he want to win? I think he's being a crybaby, and his last two years don't give him the last word anymore.

please tell me how .300/.378/.475 from your SS is bad. are you flippin' kidding me? Tack on 21 HR and 32 SB and that's straight up elite. That was 2010. Don't feed me this bulls*** "bad at the plate for 2 years" thing.

 

And yeah last year was down, but he's still the best SS in the game. How many "down" seasons has Reyes had? FOUR sub-.800 OPS seasons to Hanley's ONE.

 

come on.

I wonder if Konerko will be traded this off season..

 

 

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please tell me how .300/.378/.475 from your SS is bad. are you flippin' kidding me? Tack on 21 HR and 32 SB and that's straight up elite. That was 2010. Don't feed me this bulls*** "bad at the plate for 2 years" thing.

 

And yeah last year was down, but he's still the best SS in the game. How many "down" seasons has Reyes had? FOUR sub-.800 OPS seasons to Hanley's ONE.

 

come on.

 

That would be Tulo.

That would be Tulo.

eh, agree to disagree on that one - but they're pretty even.

Now the Marlins are denying wanting to trade Hanley. What the hell is going on down there?

I wonder if Konerko will be traded this off season..

 

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Now the Marlins are denying wanting to trade Hanley. What the hell is going on down there?

Marlins being Ozzie.

 

Oney is going on down there.

please tell me how .300/.378/.475 from your SS is bad. are you flippin' kidding me? Tack on 21 HR and 32 SB and that's straight up elite. That was 2010. Don't feed me this bulls*** "bad at the plate for 2 years" thing.

 

And yeah last year was down, but he's still the best SS in the game. How many "down" seasons has Reyes had? FOUR sub-.800 OPS seasons to Hanley's ONE.

 

come on.

 

2010 was better then I remembered, but last year wasn't. Also, Tulo is the best SS in the game, and I don't think it's particularly close.

 

Even if I'm selling Hanley's bat short, he's below average on defense. How come A-Rod was happy to move to third at age 28? Because it was best for the team (or at least perceived to be. Ironically Jeter has been overrated defensively his whole career).

 

Hanley is acting like a child. Reyes is the better defensive SS, and they need help at 3B anyway. No-brainer move.

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At this point, I would ask Konerko if he truly wanted to stay. If he wants to stay where he is comfortable then so be it, otherwise its not fair to him to make him stick around during a full rebuild if thats where we are going.

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A sportscaster wondered if the Sox would trade PK to the Cubs..

2010 was better then I remembered, but last year wasn't. Also, Tulo is the best SS in the game, and I don't think it's particularly close.

 

Even if I'm selling Hanley's bat short, he's below average on defense. How come A-Rod was happy to move to third at age 28? Because it was best for the team (or at least perceived to be. Ironically Jeter has been overrated defensively his whole career).

 

Hanley is acting like a child. Reyes is the better defensive SS, and they need help at 3B anyway. No-brainer move.

he's not acting like a child. He's the better player, and they're asking HIM to move. All I'm saying is I'd be just as pissed.

 

and lets delve into the Tulo thing. I looked it up.

 

OPS+ Tulo: 118 HanRam: 132

WAR Tulo: 23.7 HanRam: 29.3

 

Hmm....

 

It would be nice if the Dbacks, Angels, or Giants wanted Konerko and had something to give. I would think he would accept a trade out there.

Thanks Mr Obvious!

How is that obvious? Floyd has a longer contract so there is value there.