I'm surprised so many people want Myers back. From what I see, his stuff has deteriorated significantly the past few years. I'd definitely pass on him, and if they don't trade Jones and Reed (as closer), try to find another righty specialist (someone like Neshek/O'Day).

 

Unless he takes a huge paycut, like into the $2 to $3 million range, I am done with Myers. I'd be find shopping the bargain bin for relievers, or going with someone out of our system. With Crain and Jones coming back, you have two very good righties, and you still have Reed FWIW. Myers would be nice, but not a necessity, especially at an inflated number.

Randy Myers: $10M TO or $3M BO (also a naked option I believe)

2. Decline Floyd's option, no qualifying offer

Um, no.

Rios may be tradeable this off season. He's still owed a lot of money, but he had a great season. If the Sox can find a trade partner willing to give up some prospects and/or a 3B option, go for it. I don't think Dunn is tradeable. And I'd hold onto Konerko.

 

Otherwise, decline Youk, Peavy, and Floyd. Try to re-sign Peavy to a multi-year deal. I don't see Youk re-signing for much less than his option, so he's probably gone. Re-sign AJ for 2/$12M or so. Re-sign Wise as a 4th OFer or maybe a starter if Rios is traded.

 

Depending on any money freed up, go after a starting pitcher and/or a 2B/3B candidate. I'd like to see David Wright, but that's probably not going to happen.

 

Overall, unless some creative deals go down, I see something like this:

 

1B - Konerko

2B - Beckham

3B - Player from the farm/cheap filler

SS - Alexei

LF - Viciedo

CF - De Aza

RF - Rios (Wise if Rios is traded)

C - AJ

DH - Dunn

 

Rotation:

Peavy

Sale

Quintana

Santiago

?

 

I think the 2013 team might look a lot like the 2012 team.

A lot of these plans bring back virtually the same team. I don't think that's a good idea.

A lot of these plans bring back virtually the same team. I don't think that's a good idea.

 

+1

Not seeing Viciedo on the list...is he arb eligible?

 

Besides these guys...I'm open to deals for anybody on the roster (keeping De Aza)

 

Chris Sale

Nate Jones

Jose Quintana

Donnie Veal

 

100% agree w/ this post.

A lot of these plans bring back virtually the same team. I don't think that's a good idea.

 

Well said team was on pace to win 90+ so why not...if it aint broke dont fix it. Unless of course we're talking wrists and obliques here

Um, no.

 

Lol, how is that the one thing in my post you passionately disagree with?

 

For context, you only decline this option if you do the one major thing I posited, which is signing Greinke. Certainly, you can't have both of them.

Lol, how is that the one thing in my post you passionately disagree with?

 

For context, you only decline this option if you do the one major thing I posited, which is signing Greinke. Certainly, you can't have both of them.

This team can't afford Grienke, he's a huge risk and would be very pricey. It'd be smarter to invest that money elsewhere.

If the rationale for losing this year is pitching youth and injuries the same team is essentially brought back except Peavy as you have to assume Danks and Floyd are back with Sale.

 

You need to get a bargain on Youk and Peavy for them to come back. There is no way Liriano comes back.

 

If Youk comes back you rotate Dunn, Konerko and Youk.

 

They need bench help and pitcher.

 

This will be another quite off season for the White Sox which may or may not be good.

 

 

 

 

Trade Rios and Thornton (hopefully get cheap MLB-ready players or prospects in return), decline Floyd's option or trade him (he's a decent pitcher for $9.5 million).

Decline Youk, Peavy, and Myers options.

Bring back Peavy and A.J. on short term deals. Hopefully hometown discount. If not, bye.

Get a stop-gap 3B solution that doesn't completely suck balls (Alberto Calllaspo? Jeff Keppinger?). I'd be fine with a David Wright or Chase Headley, but no way any of that is happening.

 

I think our rotation next year is set if Danks is back, we'll at least have Sale, Danks, Peavy/Floyd, Quintana, Santiago/Axelrod. That's an acceptable rotation. Our bullpen should also be pretty good if there are no injury issues. The biggest issues lie with our hole at 3B. We need a way to plug that up without spending a ton of money or prospects while getting acceptable production.

A lot of these plans bring back virtually the same team. I don't think that's a good idea.

NO way. NO WAY. YOU don't think they should bring back the same team? I'm SHOCKED!!!! We didn't get that from your last 100 posts or anything.

 

NO way. NO WAY. YOU don't think they should bring back the same team? I'm SHOCKED!!!! We didn't get that from your last 100 posts or anything.

 

You'll get that from my next 100 messages too.

You'll get that from my next 100 messages too.

So other than keeping Sale, Danks and Quintana (who I think you've said isn't that good anyway), what would you do? You say shed payroll... what payroll, and how? And for what? Outside of Danks, the only expensive guys with guaranteed contracts for next year are PK, Dunn, and Rios. Maybe Thornton and Crain fit in there. Do you just give them away? What do you think you can get for them?

 

So other than keeping Sale, Danks and Quintana (who I think you've said isn't that good anyway), what would you do? You say shed payroll... what payroll, and how? And for what? Outside of Danks, the only expensive guys with guaranteed contracts for next year are PK, Dunn, and Rios. Maybe Thornton and Crain fit in there. Do you just give them away? What do you think you can get for them?

 

Trade everyone for blue-chip SP prospects. Despite our entire roster sucking except Sale, teams will be lining up to trade their farms for guys like Rios and Dunn. Cut payroll as close to 0 as possible and start rebuilding the farm so we can make a run in 5-10 years like the Royals and Jays are doing so well at. Bring back Ozzie and fire KW and Coop

 

/Marty&Greg logic

Edited October 2, 201213 yr by Jenksy Cat

I'd let go of Peavy, Youk, Myers, Humber, Wise and Hudson. I would trade Dunn,Floyd Viciedo,and Thornton.

 

My ideal lineup would be

1 De Aza CF

2 Ichrio DH

3 Ellsbury LF

4 Konerko 1B

5 Rios RF

6 AJ C

7 Alexei SS

8 Keppinger 3B

9 Beckham 2B

 

Bench: Danks OF, Sanchez Utily, Pena 1B, Flowers C

 

Rotation

Sale

Greinke

Lohse

Danks

Quintana

 

Bullpen

Santiago LR

Veal LR

Reed RR

Adams RR

Jones RR

Crain RR

Soria CLOSER

Edited October 2, 201213 yr by SOXOBAMA

I'd let go of Peavy, Youk, Myers, Humber, Wise and Hudson. I would trade Dunn,Floyd Viciedo,and Thornton.

 

My ideal lineup would be

1 De Aza CF

2 Ichrio DH

3 Ellsbury LF

4 Konerko 1B

5 Rios RF

6 AJ C

7 Alexei SS

8 Keppinger 3B

9 Beckham 2B

 

Bench: Danks OF, Sanchez Utily, Pena 1B, Flowers C

 

Rotation

Sale

Greinke

Lohse

Danks

Quintana

 

Bullpen

Santiago LR

Veal LR

League RR

Adams RR

Jones RR

Crain RR

Reed CLOSER

 

Why would you ever DH Ichiro? His greatest asset is his defense nowadays.

 

Why would you ever DH Ichiro? His greatest asset is his defense nowadays.

 

Cause of his age. I'd want him playing the field several days a week

If the sox would sign ellsbury he's going to center in a heart beat

So other than keeping Sale, Danks and Quintana (who I think you've said isn't that good anyway), what would you do? You say shed payroll... what payroll, and how? And for what? Outside of Danks, the only expensive guys with guaranteed contracts for next year are PK, Dunn, and Rios. Maybe Thornton and Crain fit in there. Do you just give them away? What do you think you can get for them?

 

In my opinion, none of Konerko, Dunn, Rios, or Ramirez are going to be solid contributors to the next Sox postseason team. Therefore let someone else pay the remainder of their contracts. With some of the savings sign an innings-eater to a short-term small money deal (Blanton, Guthrie) to protect Sale, Danks, and Quintana while at the same time setting yourself up payroll wise for 2014+

 

I'm not sure how good Quintana will be, but he's worth developing. It wouldn't surprise me eventually if he's a #3 starter, I just do not think he will reach that in 2013.

 

 

I would do everything in my power to trade Adam Dunn. Too bad we'd have to pay the whole salary AND include Thompson and probably Sanchez.

 

Maybe the weak-hitting Rays could somehow be fooled into thinking Dunn would help them. They seem like a smart team though...Baltimore?

 

I can't believe I probably have to watch that selfish pull-hitter sit in our 3hole for the next 2 years. No higher than 5th next year or I might not be able to watch games.

Cause of his age. I'd want him playing the field several days a week

 

Wait, what? You want to DH him so he can play the field several days a week?

This team can't afford Grienke, he's a huge risk and would be very pricey. It'd be smarter to invest that money elsewhere.

 

On what?

I would do everything in my power to trade Adam Dunn. Too bad we'd have to pay the whole salary AND include Thompson and probably Sanchez.

 

Maybe the weak-hitting Rays could somehow be fooled into thinking Dunn would help them. They seem like a smart team though...Baltimore?

 

I can't believe I probably have to watch that selfish pull-hitter sit in our 3hole for the next 2 years. No higher than 5th next year or I might not be able to watch games.

 

The man nearly has 100 RBIs and is 3rd in HR, most any team would like to have him....We knew all along that he was gonna K a lot and wasn't gonna have a high BA yet most here loved the signing when it happened.

 

How do you plan on replacing close to 100 RBIs?? There are only 15 guys in the MLB with more.

Edited October 2, 201213 yr by 2nd_city_saint787