Looks like no Alexei to St. Louis afterall

7:26pm: Jon Heyman of CBS Sports tweets that one team who offered Peralta four years and $52MM was told they're "not even in [the] game."

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/11/card...se-to-deal.html

 

Yikes, no way I'd even pay the $52M for Peralta, let alone more. He hasn't been able to put together 2 consecutive good seasons in quite some time.

Lmao 4/52 for a player that missed 50 games last year due to a drug suspension?!?

 

They deserve nothing short of complete failure from Peralta

Shocked he's getting more than a year + option

Surprising the Cardinals would even consider a guy like Peralta (yeah, the offense would be nice) considering how poor he is defensively at SS.

 

And those years and dollars, it's like all the players this off-season are winning the lottery.

Edited November 24, 201312 yr by caulfield12

Doesn't seem like a very Cardinals move.

So they say it's a seller's market for SS. Who are the other suitors for Alexei?

Dodgers? They have Hanley, but they don't have a 3B either and Hanley could easily slide over. Could be some sort of older Cuban mentor for Puig too.

 

Call me crazy, but I wouldn't mind getting a package back that included Dee Gordon. Hasn't looked great in the majors so far, but he's demonstrated he can be a pretty productive hitter in the minors. Just needs to put it together and change of scenery could be good for him. Obviously not the only thing I would want in return for Alexei.

 

Only other team I can think of is the Pirates. They have a plethora of young players we could want in return.

Dodgers? They have Hanley, but they don't have a 3B either and Hanley could easily slide over. Could be some sort of older Cuban mentor for Puig too.

 

Call me crazy, but I wouldn't mind getting a package back that included Dee Gordon. Hasn't looked great in the majors so far, but he's demonstrated he can be a pretty productive hitter in the minors. Just needs to put it together and change of scenery could be good for him. Obviously not the only thing I would want in return for Alexei.

 

Only other team I can think of is the Pirates. They have a plethora of young players we could want in return.

 

I am as much of a Dodgers fan as I am a Sox fan, so let me just say that. Also, with MLB.tv I watch almost all Dodgers games I can (living on the east coast makes it hard to watch all of them). I can tell you this, Dee Gordon is terrible at playing baseball. Terrible.

Turned down 4/52m? Wow! I'm guessing 4/65m. Too much for him no matter.

Doesn't seem like a very Cardinals move.

 

 

Agreed. Overpaying for a 31-year old SS that's bad at defense and is coming off a PED suspension?? That's something I would expect from the Angels maybe.

I read somewhere they wanted him to play LF!

Turned down 4/52m? Wow! I'm guessing 4/65m. Too much for him no matter.

Agree with you he is being way overpaid.

I read somewhere they wanted him to play LF!

Hard to beleive the Cards would prefer a deal with Peralta over Alexei for less money and less time. Peralta has no range . Alexei's errors made him look bad but he gets to a lot more balls than Peralta. Card must want to horde their prospects or Hahns asking price was way too high and St. Louis said FU to him. Alexei's probably worth more to us than to the Cards but seeing how much they're going to pay for Peralta thats hard to fathom.

Agree with you he is being way overpaid.

I guess it shows just how desperate the Cards are. Doesn't make sense to me considering the depth of their farm system.

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confirming Jhonny Peralta 4-year $52m deal as $ first reported by @jonmorosi

 

Ridiculous. Not worth that kind of money IMO.

Ridiculous. Not worth that kind of money IMO.

 

And also reinforces Alexei Ramirez has legitimate trade value.

Ridiculous. Not worth that kind of money IMO.

 

And to think he got caught for PEDs...

 

If he didn't get caught, what would he have gotten?

I'd imagine the Tigers would have been forced into the bidding if he had not been suspended

Really doesn't seem like a St. Louis move. I hope he struggles because he doesn't deserve that money..

Really doesn't seem like a St. Louis move. I hope he struggles because he doesn't deserve that money..

 

I agree...sounds like a bad move for St. Louis. I can't believe what teams are willing to pay for these Free Agents this year and even harder to believe what some of these guys are asking.

I like this move for the Cardinals. Kozma was such a bad player, and they were able to keep all their young players by not having to make a big trade.

And also reinforces Alexei Ramirez has legitimate trade value.

Actually I kind of view it as the opposite. STL was one of the few teams that could actually call Alexei a substantial upgrade. And they decided that it was more prudent to give a buttload of money to a PED user than trade for Alexei. And now, the market for Alexei looks very very thin. I just don't know where the demand is going to come from, especially with Stephen Drew still a FA. Not many contending teams need a SS. Hopefully the market will change through injuries or more PED suspensions...

Actually I kind of view it as the opposite. STL was one of the few teams that could actually call Alexei a substantial upgrade. And they decided that it was more prudent to give a buttload of money to a PED user than trade for Alexei. And now, the market for Alexei looks very very thin. I just don't know where the demand is going to come from, especially with Stephen Drew still a FA. Not many contending teams need a SS. Hopefully the market will change through injuries or more PED suspensions...

 

Was thinking the same thing. What contenders still need a SS? Dodgers, Pirates, and ??? Plus with Drew still available it lessens the market further.

 

Hahn could be very busy at the deadline