bmags Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Dylan's always tried hard, started on moments notice and even gave us a few shocking wins. I'm glad he gets to keep his dream alive. I hope he doesn't have to pitch in the majors this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 09:58 AM) I think everyone realizes he's not major league material but as another poster pointed out, he's not the worst fill in, in the world if he's like the 8th option. And no one has said otherwise either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Honestly he is or should be closer to the 12th option than the 8th. We got 1. Sale 2. Q 3. Johnson 4. Danks 5. Rienzo 6. Paulino 7. Surkamp 8. Chris Bassitt Should all definitely get a shot above him. I would think Beck and Snodgress then too assuming they're ready. Then beyond then I'd rather see Leesman. So he's battling Zach Stewart way down there on my list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 10:20 AM) Honestly he is or should be closer to the 12th option than the 8th. We got 1. Sale 2. Q 3. Johnson 4. Danks 5. Rienzo 6. Paulino 7. Surkamp 8. Chris Bassitt Should all definitely get a shot above him. I would think Beck and Snodgress then too assuming they're ready. Then beyond then I'd rather see Leesman. So he's battling Zach Stewart way down there on my list. Paulino, at least to start the year, won't be available as he recovers from injury. Bassitt probably wouldn't get called up for a spot start or two over Axe since he is still in need of development. The beauty of Axe is that he ought to get you some innings and you don't give a s*** about his development -- getting hammered in the majors doesn't mean anything when it happens to him. And, as we know, under the right circumstances you'll get some chance to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 10:20 AM) Honestly he is or should be closer to the 12th option than the 8th. We got 1. Sale 2. Q 3. Johnson 4. Danks 5. Rienzo 6. Paulino 7. Surkamp 8. Chris Bassitt Should all definitely get a shot above him. I would think Beck and Snodgress then too assuming they're ready. Then beyond then I'd rather see Leesman. So he's battling Zach Stewart way down there on my list. I think Beck, Snodgress, and maybe Bassitt will move ahead of Axe, but they aren't there today. Stewart is right at that Axe level, though with his arm, he should be a major league pitcher. I think if you gave a rating out of 10, Axe is a 4, with a ceiling at 5. Stewart is a 4, but with a 7 or 8 ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 10:35 AM) I think Beck, Snodgress, and maybe Bassitt will move ahead of Axe, but they aren't there today. Stewart is right at that Axe level, though with his arm, he should be a major league pitcher. I think if you gave a rating out of 10, Axe is a 4, with a ceiling at 5. Stewart is a 4, but with a 7 or 8 ceiling. That kid is frustrating as heck to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Cy Young 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 If the Sox ever have to rely on the likes of Axe/Stewart then things went horribly wrong. Both pitchers are just plain terrible, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 11:30 AM) That's not necessarily true at all. If we go into the season with Paulino on the DL and go with Sale-Quintana-Danks-EJ-Rienzo and Quintana's wife (hypothetical of course) has a baby on the same day Axelrod would start in AAA there's a very good shot Axe gets a one and done start. Anything can happen in a 162 game season and Axelrod is at the least a guy with MLB experience who the organization likes. I think in this scenario I would give Surkamp a start to see what he can do or start someone on short rest. I cringe at the idea of watching another start from Axe. I just think Axe is only good for rotation depth at AAA and that's about it. I'd consider starting Southpaw over Axe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 11:37 AM) I think in this scenario I would give Surkamp a start to see what he can do or start someone on short rest. I cringe at the idea of watching another start from Axe. I just think Axe is only good for rotation depth at AAA and that's about it. I'd consider starting Southpaw over Axe. Surkamp's minor and major league numbers are both very similar to Axelrod's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 06:23 PM) Surkamp's minor and major league numbers are both very similar to Axelrod's. Dylan Axelrod will win a Cy Young by 2016. Book it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Omogrosso is back as well. Hahn is putting the band back together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 01:29 PM) Somebody call up Troncoso. Instant nightmare..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 12:23 PM) Surkamp's minor and major league numbers are both very similar to Axelrod's. With Surkamp its about giving someone other than Axe a try. We already know about Axe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Bassitt is well back on the list, he has half a season of AA under his belt and that's it. The depth chart is likely: 1. Sale 2. Q 3. Johnson 4. Danks 5t. Surkamp 5t. Rienzo 5t. Paulino*** whenever he's healthy 8t. Axelrod 8t. Stewart 10. Oh dear lord the entire team was injured in a freak gasoline fight accident Beck is the closest to ready of the real prospects, maybe Bassitt is behind him, but neither are major league ready and likely won't see the team in 2014. Axelrod is fine as that guy for depth. With Paulino injured, he likely opens the season as the #7, moves up or down based on injuries and returns. Then as Beck, Bassitt and Snodgress progress, they may start passing him when they are close to major league ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 01:55 PM) The Dylan Axelrod Experience is not necessarily over for White Sox fans. As has been noted by some observers Axelrod has velocity issues and usually sits around 88 MPH or so. The Sox must see something in his ability even though I am not sure what that might be. My first impression is that Hank Aaron's HR mark might be in jeopardy but in this case it's one pitcher giving up that many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) I see the depth chart more like this 1- Sale 2- Quintana 3- Danks 4- Johnson 5- Surkamp 6- Rienzo 7- Paulino 8- f***ed Start Southpaw, have a regular starter pitch with his non pitching arm, summon Navarro if you will but please, no more Axe or Stewart. Edited January 14, 2014 by StRoostifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 02:02 PM) Bassitt is well back on the list, he has half a season of AA under his belt and that's it. He'll likely start at AAA, considering how strongly he finished. If he has a good three months, he'll be right there with Surkamp as a call-up consideration. What I'm saying is that there are a group of guys, likely Beck and maybe even Snodgress, who might be more likely than Axe to get a look come July, depending on performance in Apr-June. Axe is merely insurance against worst case scenarios, god willing. Edited January 14, 2014 by Stan Bahnsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 04:59 PM) He only had 8 starts in AA. I'm sure they'll start him in Birmingham and if he continues to succeed they'll bump him up in June/July. Plus 2 dominant starts in Southern League playoffs and an AFL appearance. I'll be surprised if he doesn't start in Charlotte. May depend on how he does in ST. There's also a smaller chance he'll be among the group of Sox pitchers (that includes Hector, Boone Logan and Nate Jones in recent memory) who, to the surprise of everyone, make the team with little prior expectation. Not expecting this certainly. Edited January 15, 2014 by Stan Bahnsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 08:01 PM) Call it 10 starts in AA. He pitched in the AFL in relief and if memory serves everything was strong except he was walking dudes at like a 1/IP clip. I like Bassit. He has succeeded every year in this organization and now has the semblance of a nice repertoire. I do think a move to AAA would be premature on the organization's part. This guy has just established himself as a starter and you're going to rush him through the system like that? Doesn't make sense to me. They rush pitchers quite a bit and I can't recall it ever biting them in the butt - Hector and Nate never saw Charlotte, for instance. All depends on what the braintrust thinks of him in late March. He's 25 in February, I expect him to be "challenged". Edited January 15, 2014 by Stan Bahnsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 08:51 PM) Plus 2 dominant starts in Southern League playoffs and an AFL appearance. I'll be surprised if he doesn't start in Charlotte. May depend on how he does in ST. There's also a smaller chance he'll be among the group of Sox pitchers (that includes Hector, Boone Logan and Nate Jones in recent memory) who, to the surprise of everyone, make the team with little prior expectation. Not expecting this certainly. Is there going to be room at Charlotte? By my count you are probably going to have Stewart and Axe, plus the loser between Surkamp and Rienzo. Once Paulino is healthy, that pushes the other one down in all probability. You also still have Charlie Leesman and Simon Castro in the mix. That also doesn't leave any room for someone like Snodgress (26 starts in 13 at AA)who should also be ahead of Bassitt (8 starts at AA in 13). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorkChopExpress Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 15, 2014 -> 07:55 AM) Is there going to be room at Charlotte? By my count you are probably going to have Stewart and Axe, plus the loser between Surkamp and Rienzo. Once Paulino is healthy, that pushes the other one down in all probability. You also still have Charlie Leesman and Simon Castro in the mix. That also doesn't leave any room for someone like Snodgress (26 starts in 13 at AA)who should also be ahead of Bassitt (8 starts at AA in 13). Maybe the brass doesn't expect them all to be there to start the season. Surkamp, Rienzo, Leesman, Castro, Bassitt and/or Snodgress would all make nice pieces in a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 15, 2014 -> 07:55 AM) Is there going to be room at Charlotte? By my count you are probably going to have Stewart and Axe, plus the loser between Surkamp and Rienzo. Once Paulino is healthy, that pushes the other one down in all probability. You also still have Charlie Leesman and Simon Castro in the mix. That also doesn't leave any room for someone like Snodgress (26 starts in 13 at AA)who should also be ahead of Bassitt (8 starts at AA in 13). If Castro is there I'm guessing he's in the bullpen. Possibly Leesman as well if they think he could contribute as a reliever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) I have always wondered why having someone around you hope you never have to use and if he's used he will most likely be terrible is considered "depth". My definition of depth would only include useful players. Edited January 15, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 15, 2014 -> 08:39 AM) I have always wondered why having someone around you hope you never have to use and if he's used he will most likely be terrible is considered "depth". My definition of depth would only include useful players. Being able to have your AAA team include guys who have been in AAA before, have had a stint in the show, maybe even have friends in the show, have heard suggestions from the major league pitching coach, and can help your AAA team actually win games and have a shot to go to the playoffs...all those are good things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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