June 12, 201411 yr im kind of torn between the two because i always think a player that plays everyday has more value than a pitcher playing once a week(just my opinion, for example i rather have trout than kershaw) but at the same time tanaka hasnt struggled at all while abreu has and got hurt. if i were to guess, id say tanaka too
June 12, 201411 yr I also think where the teams end up at the end of season will play into it. If the Sox sneak into the playoffs because of Abreus bat, there will be quite a discussion about it
June 12, 201411 yr QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 12, 2014 -> 02:12 PM) No doubt about it...Tanaka is ROY if he puts up those numbers. Not even close to me. If Tanaka ends the season with a 2.02 ERA and 25 wins, he is winning the ROY, CY, and MVP.
June 12, 201411 yr QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 12, 2014 -> 12:39 PM) If Tanaka ends the season with a 2.02 ERA and 25 wins, he is winning the ROY, CY, and MVP. Exactly; Strong ERA, great K numbers, etc. Add in 25 wins, which we all know isn't fully controlled by a pitcher, but it still is a strong statement. Plus hasn't it been since the late 80's since someone won that many?
June 12, 201411 yr QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 12, 2014 -> 02:47 PM) Exactly; Strong ERA, great K numbers, etc. Add in 25 wins, which we all know isn't fully controlled by a pitcher, but it still is a strong statement. Plus hasn't it been since the late 80's since someone won that many? 1990, Bob Welch.
June 12, 201411 yr QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jun 12, 2014 -> 12:53 PM) 1990, Bob Welch. Knew it was Welch, for whatever reason thought it was 88 or 89.
June 12, 201411 yr QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 12, 2014 -> 02:56 PM) Knew it was Welch, for whatever reason thought it was 88 or 89. The last one before him was Steve Stone in 1980.
June 16, 201411 yr If Tanaka wins 23 and his ERA is almost below 2 (2.02), he will win the Cy Young and ROY.
June 16, 201411 yr QUOTE (raBBit @ Jun 13, 2014 -> 09:24 AM) Actually picked it up for free! mine was free too, i just sent it to abreu in the mail haha how did you get it for free??
June 16, 201411 yr QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jun 16, 2014 -> 01:34 PM) If Tanaka wins 23 and his ERA is almost below 2 (2.02), he will win the Cy Young and ROY. good game tomarrow, he gets the blue jays
June 16, 201411 yr QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Jun 16, 2014 -> 02:58 PM) mine was free too, i just sent it to abreu in the mail haha how did you get it for free?? The White Sox address?
June 16, 201411 yr QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jun 16, 2014 -> 05:56 PM) The White Sox address? Yup , I sent a note saying I was a big fan of his etc and he even wrote on the same note that thanks for being his fan and he signed it too
June 17, 201411 yr Let's say that, in some hypothetical world, the Sox managed to land Tanaka last offseason in addition to Abreu - where would we be right now?
June 17, 201411 yr QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 16, 2014 -> 07:55 PM) Let's say that, in some hypothetical world, the Sox managed to land Tanaka last offseason in addition to Abreu - where would we be right now? 1st
June 17, 201411 yr QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jun 17, 2014 -> 12:29 AM) 1st I'd have to think they'd be running away with the division right now.
June 17, 201411 yr QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Jun 16, 2014 -> 06:11 PM) Yup , I sent a note saying I was a big fan of his etc and he even wrote on the same note that thanks for being his fan and he signed it too Did you have to write it in Spanish?
June 17, 201411 yr QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 16, 2014 -> 11:35 PM) I'd have to think they'd be running away with the division right now. We'd have to have at least a 4 game lead over Detroit
June 17, 201411 yr QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 16, 2014 -> 07:55 PM) Let's say that, in some hypothetical world, the Sox managed to land Tanaka last offseason in addition to Abreu - where would we be right now? Agreeing with the people that say first. Sale - Tanaka - Quintana at the front of the rotation, a serviceable Noesi and Danks. Bullpen is likely taxed less. The ultimate "coulda been" rotation: Sale - Tanaka - Rodon - Quintana - Montas/Danish/Adams/Beck/EJ
June 17, 201411 yr QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 17, 2014 -> 06:03 AM) Agreeing with the people that say first. Sale - Tanaka - Quintana at the front of the rotation, a serviceable Noesi and Danks. Bullpen is likely taxed less. The ultimate "coulda been" rotation: Sale - Tanaka - Rodon - Quintana - Montas/Danish/Adams/Beck/EJ I kind of disagree with this. We would not have made the move and taken a risk on Paulino. That would have left the rotation starting the year as Sale - Q - Tanaka - Danks - Johnson. It would have meant that when we sent EJ down, we'd have brought Rienzo up and kept him. When Sale went on the DL, we'd have still went with Carroll. If we had Tanaka, I honestly don't believe that we would have went for Noesi.
June 17, 201411 yr QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jun 16, 2014 -> 11:37 PM) Did you have to write it in Spanish? Yea, I wrote it in Spanish
June 17, 201411 yr QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 17, 2014 -> 12:03 AM) Agreeing with the people that say first. Sale - Tanaka - Quintana at the front of the rotation, a serviceable Noesi and Danks. Bullpen is likely taxed less. The ultimate "coulda been" rotation: Sale - Tanaka - Rodon - Quintana - Montas/Danish/Adams/Beck/EJ Needs more Danks.... Sale-Tanaka-Rodon-Quintana-Danks would be ridiculous.
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