July 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 06:42 AM) They didn't have to. Rodon wasn't going to turn down $6M to go back to college, and if he was going to turn down $6M then he's an idiot and I don't want him. It isn't so much just this signing as the precedent it sets. Now that the Sox have gone over slot once, every first round pick from now on is going to expect it. Setting a bad precedent. They could have gone a little over, but if "over $6.45M" is accurate they caved too much to Boras and it sets a terrible precedent.
July 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (peppers312 @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 08:49 AM) he was slotted at $5.7M and got $6.45. i'm not going to gripe about another $750K if this kid ends up being our #1 prospect. great news this morning! He's already the #1 prospect.
July 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 9, 2014 -> 09:04 PM) "More than 6.45 million" Fantastic. I really don't care. A few hundred grand more or less, doesn't mean a difference to me and doesn't impact the Sox long-term either. Glad this got done and timing seems good as it means Rodon got a nice little break and now can slowly get worked in and get his feet wet. Unlike most, I still expect him to spend most, if not all of next year in the minors.
July 10, 201411 yr The precedent of Scott Boras wants a lot of money for his clients was set a long time ago. Yes I know that's not what you guys are talking about but that's all this is, this isn't going to hurt the Sox with future picks. The Sox also made sure they had extra money left just in case something like this happened. There's no negative to this move at all.
July 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 04:42 AM) They didn't have to. Rodon wasn't going to turn down $6M to go back to college, and if he was going to turn down $6M then he's an idiot and I don't want him. It isn't so much just this signing as the precedent it sets. Now that the Sox have gone over slot once, every first round pick from now on is going to expect it. Setting a bad precedent. Situations are different. This was the consensus #1 for most of the year and many still pegged him as that. Different circumstances. Every negotiation is unique.
July 10, 201411 yr Well, Rodon is the guy I wanted all along and I really expected the Sox to avoid drafting him because of Boras, so all in all I'm happy they signed him. I still didn't think it would be for that much over slot but if that's what it took, so be it. Edited July 10, 201411 yr by South Side Fireworks Man
July 10, 201411 yr Can't wait to see the progress he makes in our system. Hope this enables the Sox to make some trades.
July 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 07:55 AM) Huge news!! Excited to see how quickly he moves through the system. I'd put him in the pen tonight
July 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 08:44 AM) Let's just say I'll be buying someone a nice scotch tonight May I recommend Balvenie Single Barrel 15?
July 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 02:44 PM) Well, Rodon is the guy I wanted all along and I really expected the Sox to avoid drafting him because of Boras, so all in all I'm happy they signed him. I still didn't think it would be for that much over slot but if that's what it took, so be it. Totally agree. I think the gap between drafting him and the signing sort of tamed my excitement, naturally, but had you told me on June 1st this was how the draft would work out I would have jumped on a couch cruise style.
July 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (Dunt @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 10:01 AM) May I recommend Balvenie Single Barrel 15? I recommend Mad Dog 20/20 or Boones Farm
July 10, 201411 yr I'm stoked! Following his minor league career (and I hope it will be a brief one) will be fun. Go Rodon! Go White Sox!
July 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 10:08 AM) I recommend Mad Dog 20/20 or Boones Farm He said Scotch, idiot. I say Passport. Can never go wrong with the cheapest stuff on the shelf.
July 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (Dunt @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 10:01 AM) May I recommend Balvenie Single Barrel 15? I'll see if they have it at the club
July 10, 201411 yr John Manuel @johnmanuelba 57m Expecting definitive news on @CarlosRodon16 signing w/#WhiteSox today. Sox' bonus pool leaves max north of $6.5M http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/?te...6&team=1026 … I was tweeting back and forth with Manuel. He doesn't think the $6.45 million number is accurate. He thinks it's more than that.
July 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 11:08 AM) John Manuel @johnmanuelba 57m Expecting definitive news on @CarlosRodon16 signing w/#WhiteSox today. Sox' bonus pool leaves max north of $6.5M http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/?te...6&team=1026 … I was tweeting back and forth with Manuel. He doesn't think the $6.45 million number is accurate. He thinks it's more than that. I dont think its up to 6.8 but I thin its overslot. But really, he's signing so who cares at this point.
July 10, 201411 yr Glad to see we got him signed. I wonder if he wasn't taken number one because of boras or if teams liked the other pitchers, i still am shocked he fell to us in the draft though. What do you think boras would have asked for if rodon was taken number one.
July 10, 201411 yr He was the best player in the draft and we've already seen Scott Boras take a potential number 1 who dropped back to college when he didn't get his asking price. I wouldn't want to try too hard to call his bluff
July 10, 201411 yr But if Boras had done ANY negotiating on his behalf, going back to college wouldn't be an option, would it? Signing an agent ends your college status, i thought. That would leave what, Independent league? Joliet Slammers?
July 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 04:13 PM) I dont think its up to 6.8 but I thin its overslot. But really, he's signing so who cares at this point. at which point will the sox get penalized for overspending
July 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 01:26 PM) But if Boras had done ANY negotiating on his behalf, going back to college wouldn't be an option, would it? Signing an agent ends your college status, i thought. That would leave what, Independent league? Joliet Slammers? MLB is different than the other sports I believe.
July 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (LDF @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 02:40 PM) at which point will the sox get penalized for overspending If a club exceeds its SBP in a given Rule 4 Draft, a tax will be assessed and future Rule 4 Draft picks could be forfeited, depending on how much the club exceeded its SBP. (The club’s 1st Round draft pick in the next Rule 4 Draft is forfeited if the club exceeds its SBP by 5-10%, its 1st & 2nd round draft picks in the next Rule 4 Draft are forfeited if the club exceeds its SBP by 10-15%, and the club’s 1st Round picks in the next two Rule 4 Drafts are forfeited if the club exceeds its SBP by more than 15%). So basically they can go over by 4.999999% and not get punished, but anything after that and not happening. No club is going to forfeit a 1st round pick, unless there is a compelling reason.
July 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jul 10, 2014 -> 01:26 PM) But if Boras had done ANY negotiating on his behalf, going back to college wouldn't be an option, would it? Signing an agent ends your college status, i thought. That would leave what, Independent league? Joliet Slammers? Yes, if Boras had negotiated directly with the White Sox, Rodon would lose his amateur status. As an advisor though, he can talk to Rodon and any other parties involved on his behalf.
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