Barstool had me on to talk about the Samardzija situation and state of the Sox.

 

http://www.barstoolsports.com/chicago/fire...de/#getcomments

Read that earlier. Didn't know it was you.

Well-reasoned analysis.

Well if they weren't going to trade him by tomorrow, there really is no rush.

Best player available.

Nothing wrong with stockpiling young pitching...can move it for young hitting as well. Sox don't have that much pitching anyway. In fact, now that Montas is called up, they don't have a top prospect pitcher anywhere near the majors (I'm discounting E Johnson; his stats are so good, that to have not been called up tells me they don't think he can beat major league hitting).

No reason to trade him ASAP. Take it to the deadline. Let the bidding get hot.

Thanks for the kind words boys.

Good interview man! Well done.

No reason to trade him ASAP. Take it to the deadline. Let the bidding get hot.

Well there were 15 scouts at his start where he thee a complete game shutout against a (the?) top hitting team. May not get more heated than that.

I also suspect that between now and the deadline, there will be a greater supply of pitchers on the market than there are now.

Well there were 15 scouts at his start where he thee a complete game shutout against a (the?) top hitting team. May not get more heated than that.

I also suspect that between now and the deadline, there will be a greater supply of pitchers on the market than there are now.

 

Yes there will be more sellers . The Tigers might decide to sell David Price .There's still Hamels, Cueto, Mike Leake, or any Oakland starter since you never know what Oakland will do. Padres may decide James Shields is movable . Craig Kimbrel and Aroldis Chapman or Jay Bruce might also become available. Rumors are already flying about Justin Upton and Carlos Gonzalez.

 

It's not only starting pitchers that will dilute the market for Shark but any trade that brings players back the Sox are interested in.

Yes there will be more sellers . The Tigers might decide to sell David Price .There's still Hamels, Cueto, Mike Leake, or any Oakland starter since you never know what Oakland will do. Padres may decide James Shields is movable . Craig Kimbrel and Aroldis Chapman or Jay Bruce might also become available. Rumors are already flying about Justin Upton and Carlos Gonzalez.

 

It's not only starting pitchers that will dilute the market for Shark but any trade that brings players back the Sox are interested in.

 

i am sooo divided on this. the sox should decide whether they will trade shark, if Yes, then do it sooner. jump on the other team with a very good pitcher and pick up pieces the team need. if not, do what is necessary to make this run for the playoff.

 

but i guess the sox org did make a mention sometime this week about that. oh well i am going to cheer for the sox to make this run.

Per Rosenthal:

 

 

One rival executive says he expects the White Sox to make a big offer to right-hander Jeff Samardzija in an attempt to keep the team's starting pitching intact long term.

 

Per Rosenthal:

 

 

One rival executive says he expects the White Sox to make a big offer to right-hander Jeff Samardzija in an attempt to keep the team's starting pitching intact long term.

 

interesting..... i like it.

interesting..... i like it.

 

I'd like to see him traded first and then possibly brought back in the off-season.

Per Rosenthal:

 

 

One rival executive says he expects the White Sox to make a big offer to right-hander Jeff Samardzija in an attempt to keep the team's starting pitching intact long term.

I'm fine with that also, but I would rather move him and sign him in the offseason though.

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/mlb-non...id=485919811822

 

 

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http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/mlb-non...id=485919811822

 

 

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Aside from what I have all said in this thread, that's another reason to trade Samardzija. The Sox desperately need hitters throughout the organization and trading Samardzija can help with that.

Aside from what I have all said in this thread, that's another reason to trade Samardzija. The Sox desperately need hitters throughout the organization and trading Samardzija can help with that.

Certainly agree.

 

I'm not sure why the Sox liked Samardzija so much in the first place. He's not really a ground ball pitcher, which they (rightly) prefer.

Certainly agree.

 

I'm not sure why the Sox liked Samardzija so much in the first place. He's not really a ground ball pitcher, which they (rightly) prefer.

I know what you mean as there were a handful of board members that were against the idea when it was just a rumor last November.

 

I give the Sox credit for making a go of it but things just have not worked out and its time to move on.

 

Hopefully Houston is willing to part with a few of their young hitters as it seems they have the most to offer in terms of the Sox needs.

I know what you mean as there were a handful of board members that were against the idea when it was just a rumor last November.

 

I give the Sox credit for making a go of it but things just have not worked out and its time to move on.

 

Hopefully Houston is willing to part with a few of their young hitters as it seems they have the most to offer in terms of the Sox needs.

 

Houston is also rumored to be looking for a 1st baseman. Maybe LaRoche wouldn't be better than what they have now but maybe the Astros might like the idea of getting a veteran leader to help the young guys down the stretch. Shark and the Rock both to Houston.

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Houston is also rumored to be looking for a 1st baseman. Maybe LaRoche wouldn't be better than what they have now but maybe the Astros might like the idea of getting a veteran leader to help the young guys down the stretch. Shark and the Rock both to Houston.

I read about that too. The only problem is would Houston be willing to take on the combined remaining salaries which comes to around 10M the rest of the season. They should have the space for it, but I'm not their GM either. Would make the rumor mill even more interesting.

Per Rosenthal:

 

 

One rival executive says he expects the White Sox to make a big offer to right-hander Jeff Samardzija in an attempt to keep the team's starting pitching intact long term.

 

Sounds like a Mark Buehrle situation where they find a trade for him, and then put a contract in front of him and give him the choice. That being said, I like it. There is no way we win a bidding war for him, so get what you can for him.

Sounds like a Mark Buehrle situation where they find a trade for him, and then put a contract in front of him and give him the choice. That being said, I like it. There is no way we win a bidding war for him, so get what you can for him.

 

I agree with this. Trade him by the deadline, or resign him now and have that rotation be really good next year.

I'd like to see him traded first and then possibly brought back in the off-season.

 

that too would not be a bad option. but i can see the sox making a bold move like, this and say, if it failed, we tried to sign him and he said no. we as an org at that point needed to think about the future.

Aside from what I have all said in this thread, that's another reason to trade Samardzija. The Sox desperately need hitters throughout the organization and trading Samardzija can help with that.

excellent point and i agree.

Houston is also rumored to be looking for a 1st baseman. Maybe LaRoche wouldn't be better than what they have now but maybe the Astros might like the idea of getting a veteran leader to help the young guys down the stretch. Shark and the Rock both to Houston.

 

that would be sweet, but i think hou would want to sox to take back some salary of some sort.

 

what do you think??

Per Rosenthal:

 

 

One rival executive says he expects the White Sox to make a big offer to right-hander Jeff Samardzija in an attempt to keep the team's starting pitching intact long term.

I look at this and see a few different outcomes.

#1- The White Sox do indeed sign him long term in attempt to ride this season out and make a wildcard push. If they go this route, I really do see them dealing away Quintana this winter. He can most likely bring more back in a trade than Samardzija and the one way to acquire offensive help would be to trade away pitching. I HIGHLY doubt they will go the free agent route this winter. (They NEED to maintain draft picks)

 

#2- They are saying they plan on extending him in an attempt to increase his value even more as teams will definitely get into a bidding war close to the deadline. Steve Stone currently believes they can get a team's #3 prospect for him or multiple prospects who are younger.

 

Things sure will get interesting within the next few weeks. I believe this home stand will be pivotal in determining the team's direction. Personally, I hope they find a way to acquire a few top prospects before the deadline. They need to fill that 3b, 2b and C spot badly.

 

on Morosi ‏@jonmorosi 44s45 seconds ago

 

Heard today that as many as a dozen teams are actively looking for starting pitchers. Complicated market.

http://tinyurl.com/olv2gnc

 

Brian, if we can get that package from the Jays, I would take that and run.

They need to move Samardzija now. The market is ripe. Plenty of fish in the sea this offseason to replace him.