shipps Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 03:56 PM) FWIW, Heyman, Rosenthal, Bowden and O'Dowd just got done discussing Shark, none think he'll be traded, not with the recent surge. Hopefully Hahn is just using this idea as leverage in making a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 03:56 PM) FWIW, Heyman, Rosenthal, Bowden and O'Dowd just got done discussing Shark, none think he'll be traded, not with the recent surge. Losing 7 out of 10 in August and Sox will kick themselves in the ass for holding on to Shark. We just lost 5 of 6 last home stand when playing good teams. Edited July 28, 2015 by Soxfest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 04:03 PM) Losing 7 out of 10 in August and Sox will kick themselves in the ass for holding on to Shark. Not really, because in your scenario they either 1) Re-sign him with the leverage of the comp pick or 2) Receive aforementioned comp pick. Maybe not as sexy as getting top prospects right now but not terrible either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 02:03 PM) Losing 7 out of 10 in August and Sox will kick themselves in the ass for holding on to Shark. We just lost 5 of 6 last home stand when playing good teams. It's what has me torn, to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 03:08 PM) It's what has me torn, to say the least. This team can't stand pat. Either sell Shark. Or go get Puig or possibly CarGo. They need a bat in the worst way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 04:10 PM) This team can't stand pat. Either sell Shark. Or go get Puig or possibly CarGo. They need a bat in the worst way. Yes they can stand pat. And it's probably the right move. They have a chance, but it's small and it's for a 1 game wildcard. That's not enough to "go for it" but it is enough to keep Shark and take the comp pick v. the returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 04:14 PM) Yes they can stand pat. And it's probably the right move. They have a chance, but it's small and it's for a 1 game wildcard. That's not enough to "go for it" but it is enough to keep Shark and take the comp pick v. the returns. Unless the returns are great, I tend to follow this line of thought. From all talk, big returns are for hitters, or pitchers with longer control. We are dealing neither. Unless the return is greater than what we can gain from say the #30 pick in the draft (including the chance at going underslot to bring in more players later) you don't make a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 04:03 PM) Losing 7 out of 10 in August and Sox will kick themselves in the ass for holding on to Shark. We just lost 5 of 6 last home stand when playing good teams. They'd never admit it. Us fans will, though. Although the excuse is probably going to be, "we weren't going to get much for him anyways." I hope we find out what was offered for Shark if the White Sox decide to keep him for the remainder of the year. It'll be fun to see what we dismissed under the possibility that we can make the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 04:07 PM) Not really, because in your scenario they either 1) Re-sign him with the leverage of the comp pick or 2) Receive aforementioned comp pick. Maybe not as sexy as getting top prospects right now but not terrible either way. Comp pick is a total crapshoot not that great a value to me just to hang on to Shark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtsoxfan Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Giants looking into Samardzija now http://www.csnbayarea.com/giants/report-gi...soxs-samardzija Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 05:14 PM) Yes they can stand pat. And it's probably the right move. They have a chance, but it's small and it's for a 1 game wildcard. That's not enough to "go for it" but it is enough to keep Shark and take the comp pick v. the returns. It's 100% the wrong move. If you think your team really has a shot then make that decision and add a bat. If you don't think this team has a shot then sell him. Standing pat is just silly when it's clear your team has holes you could fill. If your GM isn't bold enough to make a decision, then hire me for his salary. I'll make one and if it's wrong you can fire me. At least I'll have made a decision. If you're paid that much to make decisions your decision better be "something". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 04:48 PM) It's 100% the wrong move. If you think your team really has a shot then make that decision and add a bat. If you don't think this team has a shot then sell him. Standing pat is just silly when it's clear your team has holes you could fill. If your GM isn't bold enough to make a decision, then hire me for his salary. I'll make one and if it's wrong you can fire me. At least I'll have made a decision. If you're paid that much to make decisions your decision better be "something". Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 03:48 PM) It's 100% the wrong move. If you think your team really has a shot then make that decision and add a bat. If you don't think this team has a shot then sell him. Standing pat is just silly when it's clear your team has holes you could fill. If your GM isn't bold enough to make a decision, then hire me for his salary. I'll make one and if it's wrong you can fire me. At least I'll have made a decision. If you're paid that much to make decisions your decision better be "something". We just have no business standing pat. We have numerous holes. If you're keeping Shark go get a bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Since he is starting tonight, there's no need to trade him until 31st now. The White Sox are probably unsure of their direction (due to their recent hot streak). Whether that's a good thing or not is probably a bigger question than whether they should trade Samardijia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor13 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) A shark package for Puig is a great deal. It allows the sox to legitimately contend for a playoff spot and improve the teams offense for a number of years. The best thing I think would be to keep shark and trade for CarGo or Puig. The problem with standing pat is that we justhave way to many holes to make a legitimate run at the playoffs. We need a bat and really our best options are CarGo and Puig. We need to make things happen this bc we really have a shot. Next year we will be a worse team unless we resign Shark and add two or three bats. We have a shot this year and really need to take advantage of that Edited July 28, 2015 by Condor13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 04:48 PM) It's 100% the wrong move. If you think your team really has a shot then make that decision and add a bat. If you don't think this team has a shot then sell him. Standing pat is just silly when it's clear your team has holes you could fill. If your GM isn't bold enough to make a decision, then hire me for his salary. I'll make one and if it's wrong you can fire me. At least I'll have made a decision. If you're paid that much to make decisions your decision better be "something". Depends what the market is. If were just getting offered very low level prospects for shark, and the draft pick has a better chance of turning up a better prospect, then don't trade Shark. I also don't advocate giving up a ton for a rental bat. So maybe just ride out the squad. Maybe look at a waiver bat. But he should make some internal moves that can be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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