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White Sox decline to tender Tyler Flowers and Jacob Turner

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YES!!!!

 

f*** YES!!!!

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Getting rid of Turner so quickly surprises me though. He never had a chance to work with Coop.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 06:04 PM)
Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 55s55 seconds ago

One name to keep an eye on as White Sox seek a catcher: Dioner Navarro. Sense among competitors is something could come together quickly.

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan

 

I would actually love a battery of Avila/Navarro behind the plate

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 06:06 PM)
Getting rid of Turner so quickly surprises me though. He never had a chance to work with Coop.

 

Yeah that's more shocking me than Flowers.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 06:07 PM)
I would actually love a battery of Avila/Navarro behind the plate

 

The state of catching these days is pretty damn thin, so I guess this could do for a year.

I see Navarro or Rosario as the most likely replacement for Flowers.

 

Either one would be an upgrade. I'm so happy right now.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Nov 26, 2015 -> 08:52 PM)
I think any negativity about this [signing Avila] is the result of the realization that Flowers will still have a primary role next year. Really though, everyone should have realized that months ago.

Herp derp. Color me shocked.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 06:06 PM)
Getting rid of Turner so quickly surprises me though. He never had a chance to work with Coop.

He must not be healthy.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 05:57 PM)
People on here look waaaaaay to into the whole Flowers is his personal catcher thing. Sale will be fine. Honestly, they'll probably bring in a right handed hitting, defensive first catcher for cheap to be his backup. Cheaper than what Flowers would make it should say.

This.

 

Sale is elite and is quite possibly the best pitcher in the American League.

 

He will succeed and thrive no matter who is catching him.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 06:09 PM)
I see Navarro or Rosario as the most likely replacement for Flowers.

 

Either one would be an upgrade. I'm so happy right now.

Rosario would not be an upgrade. He is s***.

Of course, all these years I wanted them to DFA Flowers and then I find out about pitch framing, decide I actually quite like him, and they DFA him.

Navarro had a 894 OPS against LH starters last year and batted 266 with a 715 OPS away from Toronto last season.

 

Encouraging.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 06:11 PM)
Rosario would not be an upgrade. He is s***.

He'd be an upgrade offensively at the very least.

Why on earth are people excited about the possibility of Wilin Rosario?

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 06:14 PM)
Why on earth are people excited about the possibility of Wilin Rosario?

 

I'm not at all. He's terrible. I'd rather have Navarro. If I recall he hits lefties good over his career.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 06:12 PM)
He'd be an upgrade offensively at the very least.

Look up his road splits. He would be a marginal upgrade and he is - no exaggeration - trash as a catcher. He's barely a catcher at this point.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 06:11 PM)
Navarro had a 894 OPS against LH starters last year and batted 266 with a 715 OPS away from Toronto last season.

 

Encouraging.

It seems he is the guy with Avila vs. RHP. Of course Emilio Bonifacio was supposed to kill lefties.

Guessing Turner is hurt. We have an extremely bare 40 man with both open spots and lack of talent on the end. Doesn't make sense for him to go first.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 07:14 PM)
Why on earth are people excited about the possibility of Wilin Rosario?

Because different is exciting. Everyone craves a little strange now and then.

Say we sign Navarro? How long and how much?

 

My guess is 2 years/6-8 million

Navarro is a switch hitter, right?

 

A guy that hasn't been named that I'd like is Peter O'Brien of the Diamondbacks. He's still super young and was a top prospect at one point. I don't know if he's available though.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 06:16 PM)
It seems he is the guy with Avila vs. RHP. Of course Emilio Bonifacio was supposed to kill lefties.

 

Then that plan got ruined by resigning Beckham.

Jason Castro has been a rumored non-tender guy. Maybe a deal tonight with the Astros?

If we were DFAing anyone surely it should have been Avisail Garcia.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 2, 2015 -> 06:23 PM)
Jason Castro has been a rumored non-tender guy. Maybe a deal tonight with the Astros?

Castro hit worse than Flowers IIRC.

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