I'm with you on this one BlackSox13.

Right on. I will admit that advanced stats say Desmond is a small upgrade over Alexei but the only SS that had more errors than Desmond (27) was Semien (35). Desmond has positive range whereas Alexei is negative but Desmond is negative in throwing whereas Alexei is positive. Meh, I'll roll the dice with Saladino.

 

For anyone interested : http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...=&players=0

FWIW

 

SOURCE: @Yankees and @RedSox both meet with #YoenisCespedes over the weekend! #Cespedes "...no problem" taking a 1 year deal #Powerball @

 

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/LErikRenne/statu...302426756939776

 

Another random Twitter tool I assume.

FWIW

 

SOURCE: @Yankees and @RedSox both meet with #YoenisCespedes over the weekend! #Cespedes "...no problem" taking a 1 year deal #Powerball @

 

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/LErikRenne/statu...302426756939776

 

Another random Twitter tool I assume.

 

Since the Red Sox sent Cespedes packing pretty quickly and he had some personal problems w a coach in his brief stint, I would doubt there is interest w either side. Sounds like an internet rumor

 

FWIW

 

SOURCE: @Yankees and @RedSox both meet with #YoenisCespedes over the weekend! #Cespedes "...no problem" taking a 1 year deal #Powerball @

 

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/LErikRenne/statu...302426756939776

 

Another random Twitter tool I assume.

 

Wouldn't shock me at all. I'm questioning just how involved the Sox have been with Cespedes.

Sounds like the Tigers are taking a similar stance like the Sox. Interesting in that no team, as of yet, is willing to commit to a long term deal for Cespedes.

 

https://detroitjockcity.com/2016/01/10/detr...ding-to-report/

 

"One major league source indicated that Cespedes is a hot topic within the Tigers organization and the reaction is split."

 

"One possibility that would keep all of the offseason reports consistent would be if the Tigers are considering Cespedes, but only if his value slips to the point of accepting a short-term deal. They’re not going to get themselves into a bidding war, but he would fill a need at the right price."

Since the Red Sox sent Cespedes packing pretty quickly and he had some personal problems w a coach in his brief stint, I would doubt there is interest w either side. Sounds like an internet rumor

Exactly. Besides it all tweets are true, the Sox have already agreed to a 6 year contract with him, but then didn't but only have a 5 year offer, yet will not offer more than 3 years.

The Yankees are trying to get below the luxury tax. A one year deal would blow that away.

 

I really don't understand why so many people throw so much BS on the Twitter.

Edited January 10, 201610 yr by Dick Allen

Exactly. Besides it all tweets are true, the Sox have already agreed to a 6 year contract with him, but then didn't but only have a 5 year offer, yet will not offer more than 3 years.

The Yankees are trying to get below the luxury tax. A one year deal would blow that away.

 

I really don't understand why so many people throw so much BS on the Twitter.

 

Page views, fame and fortune for those select few who actually turn out to be right or deliver inside knowledge at least 33% of the time...and the massive desire for minute by minute updated information in any breaking news story, whether sports or a terrorist bombing or mass shooting.

Lmfao!

 

This thread was started on December 13th, is just shy of being a month old and is over 150 pages long, yet we still have no clue what's going with Cespedes.

On the plus side, there's finally some type of movement or information out there on Upton...and you'd have to think that the Orioles would set a deadline on Chris Davis at some point so they don't miss out on both him AND the outfield market simultaneously.

On the plus side, there's finally some type of movement or information out there on Upton...and you'd have to think that the Orioles would set a deadline on Chris Davis at some point so they don't miss out on both him AND the outfield market simultaneously.

What movement has there been on the Uptpn front?

What movement has there been on the Uptpn front?

 

He signed with the Springfield Isotopes tonight 6/175 according to my Twitter source.

What movement has there been on the Uptpn front?

 

His agent (Reynolds) making comments to the media as well as a line forming of teams willing to give him one year deals so he can exploit an opportunity to put up huge offensive numbers and make more FA money next year...assuming Upton can't get the long-term deal he wants.

Edited January 11, 201610 yr by caulfield12

http://www.si.com/mlb/2016/01/05/whats-he-...des-free-agency

http://www.si.com/mlb/2016/01/05/whats-he-...des-free-agency

At this point there's no way Cespedes gets close to the $150 million that the article suggests teams should offer.

Well, that's discouraging.

 

Best case scenario is probably $75-84 million for three years, that's $27.5 million per season splitting the difference.

 

What's the most they've ever paid a player for one season? Pretty sure $16-17 million in 2012 for Peavy or one of Dunn's years...the most Dunn made was $15 million his last two seasons.

 

Ordonez made $14 million in 2004, that would be the highest adjusted for inflation. Buehrle made $14 million for four seasons. Konerko at $13.5 million.

After all of this time waiting, all of the talk and speculation, I still think the wisest move for the front office, in which he would be interested, is a 6 year deal, front loaded, with an opt out privilege for him after 2 or 3 years. How many of you share that view?

Well, that's discouraging.

 

Best case scenario is probably $75-84 million for three years, that's $27.5 million per season splitting the difference.

 

What's the most they've ever paid a player for one season? Pretty sure $16-17 million in 2012 for Peavy or one of Dunn's years...the most Dunn made was $15 million his last two seasons.

 

Ordonez made $14 million in 2004, that would be the highest adjusted for inflation. Buehrle made $14 million for four seasons. Konerko at $13.5 million.

What's discouraging about it? There's no new information there, just one writer projecting Cespedes' future performance and throwing out a suggested number. It says nothing about teams actually offering that number.

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman 39m39 minutes ago

Tigers have discussed yoenis, j-up, davis, fowler, desmond. Depends on $. may just go for platooner for LF tho (ie rebury)

 

Some fear mongering for all of you who are terrified of the Tigers.

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman 39m39 minutes ago

Tigers have discussed yoenis, j-up, davis, fowler, desmond. Depends on $. may just go for platooner for LF tho (ie rebury)

 

Some fear mongering for all of you who are terrified of the Tigers.

 

Tyler Collins, Maybin and Gose for 2/3rds of an outfield won't work.

Well, that's discouraging.

 

Best case scenario is probably $75-84 million for three years, that's $27.5 million per season splitting the difference.

 

What's the most they've ever paid a player for one season? Pretty sure $16-17 million in 2012 for Peavy or one of Dunn's years...the most Dunn made was $15 million his last two seasons.

 

Ordonez made $14 million in 2004, that would be the highest adjusted for inflation. Buehrle made $14 million for four seasons. Konerko at $13.5 million.

 

John Danks is at $15.75 for 15 and 16.

I'll go ahead & say it, I'd be very surprised to see the Sox get Cespedes or Upton. I think they'll turn their attention to the 2/3 tier guys.

Tyler Collins, Maybin and Gose for 2/3rds of an outfield won't work.

 

Maybin plays CF and J.D Martinez plays RF.

 

Gose and Collins could always platoon in LF.

 

 

I'll go ahead & say it, I'd be very surprised to see the Sox get Cespedes or Upton. I think they'll turn their attention to the 2/3 tier guys.

 

That would be a major failure on their part. Major, major failure.

 

That would be a major failure on their part. Major, major failure.

 

What if Cespedes ends up getting 5/125 from some team? For me, I think he will be a massive flop with that type of contract.

After all of this time waiting, all of the talk and speculation, I still think the wisest move for the front office, in which he would be interested, is a 6 year deal, front loaded, with an opt out privilege for him after 2 or 3 years. How many of you share that view?

You literally keep saying this every other day but continue to ignore the fact that we're up against a budget this year. It's incredibly unlikely that we'll be able to front-load a deal for either of these guys.